1 00:00:04,789 --> 00:00:02,710 important and really nice friends of 2 00:00:06,550 --> 00:00:04,799 mine here on the show this evening our 3 00:00:09,990 --> 00:00:06,560 first hour we're going to have 4 00:00:11,350 --> 00:00:10,000 tyler clark who is one of my original i 5 00:00:14,390 --> 00:00:11,360 want to call him 6 00:00:17,109 --> 00:00:14,400 my most favorite my most i probably 7 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:17,119 truly one of my sons out there in the in 8 00:00:22,790 --> 00:00:19,680 the ether universe of dimensional time 9 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:22,800 space is tyler clark and i'm just so 10 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:24,000 excited that he's going to be on the 11 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:26,160 show tonight he hasn't been on my show 12 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:27,920 for at least three years that i can 13 00:00:30,790 --> 00:00:29,279 think of so it's going to be quite 14 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:30,800 extraordinary to talk to him this 15 00:00:35,830 --> 00:00:32,800 evening and then in the second hour 16 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:35,840 we've got my other buddy and long time 17 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:36,640 uh 18 00:00:41,350 --> 00:00:39,440 guest on my show at all you know he 19 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:41,360 always fills in when the guests don't 20 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:43,680 show up and he's just an amazing dude 21 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:44,640 and that's 22 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:45,440 this 23 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:47,600 buddy tron you know that you guys all 24 00:00:51,670 --> 00:00:49,760 love to hate so he'll be out in the 25 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:51,680 second hour and you know it's 26 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:53,440 interesting i was thinking about this 27 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:54,399 today 28 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:57,120 i started thinking about my relationship 29 00:01:01,270 --> 00:00:59,760 with all of like max and james rink 30 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:01,280 tyler clark 31 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:03,840 and then all the people i met in the 32 00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:06,640 years to follow the last super soldier 33 00:01:12,310 --> 00:01:09,280 summit i did in 2014 34 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:12,320 that really uh by that one that was a 35 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:14,400 tough one tyler doesn't know about what 36 00:01:19,270 --> 00:01:16,640 happened at that one but it was pretty 37 00:01:21,990 --> 00:01:19,280 wild and uh that was the one where i 38 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:22,000 decided i wasn't doing this ever again 39 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:24,159 and you know lo and behold i will be 40 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:27,200 holding one more mind control summit 41 00:01:32,789 --> 00:01:28,640 that's going to cover targeted 42 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:32,799 individuals super soldiers and 43 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:34,880 satanism 44 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:37,280 and uh i'm going to be doing that 45 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:40,799 sometime in june of 2018 is we just 46 00:01:45,190 --> 00:01:43,040 picked the date yesterday as a matter of 47 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:45,200 fact so i will be doing it i'm 48 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:47,040 announcing it now i'm ready for the 49 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:48,399 blowback 50 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:50,560 it always happens the minute i announce 51 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:52,479 i'm doing this you guys my life just 52 00:01:58,389 --> 00:01:56,799 gets in sand insane so um you know i i 53 00:02:00,230 --> 00:01:58,399 don't know what to do it's one of those 54 00:02:02,709 --> 00:02:00,240 things i'm damned if i do and i damned 55 00:02:05,830 --> 00:02:02,719 if i don't but i i really feel a need to 56 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:05,840 do one last big one and uh but we'll be 57 00:02:10,469 --> 00:02:08,640 talking more about that in the future 58 00:02:12,869 --> 00:02:10,479 and you know maybe it won't happen you 59 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:12,879 know i just i kind of like waffle back 60 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:14,640 and forth um 61 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:16,319 i really have a lot of people out there 62 00:02:20,630 --> 00:02:18,480 that want me to do this and uh people 63 00:02:23,350 --> 00:02:20,640 are coming from all over the world to be 64 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:23,360 in this last one you know and i call it 65 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:25,680 the last rodeo because i'll tell you 66 00:02:28,470 --> 00:02:27,120 folks these are 67 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:28,480 these are really tough to put on and 68 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:30,480 we'll get into that a little bit with 69 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:32,400 tyler here in a few minutes but before i 70 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:34,400 do i just want to let you guys all know 71 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:35,920 that i'm feeling much better and i want 72 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:37,200 to thank i don't know if it was this 73 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:39,200 show or my other show that i told the 74 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:41,440 story about this leg infection or foot 75 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:44,000 infection i got in july at the mufon 76 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:46,080 symposium i think it was my other show 77 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:47,760 and people were sending me all kinds of 78 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:50,959 well wishes and they were giving me uh 79 00:02:56,470 --> 00:02:53,599 natural herbal remedies and 80 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:56,480 i'm doing much better so um yeah after 81 00:03:01,270 --> 00:02:58,239 rounds and rounds of antibiotics and 82 00:03:03,190 --> 00:03:01,280 being in the er twice and all kinds of 83 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:03,200 crazy things happening with it i think 84 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:05,120 we finally beat it so i think we're all 85 00:03:08,229 --> 00:03:06,400 doing well 86 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:08,239 it's the first week i've actually felt 87 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:09,599 pretty good 88 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:11,360 and uh yeah i've been battling this 89 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:13,440 since that mufon symposium which was 90 00:03:19,509 --> 00:03:17,040 what the third weekend of july so it was 91 00:03:21,509 --> 00:03:19,519 really bad then you know the problem was 92 00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:21,519 folks that i just didn't go to the er 93 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:23,360 when i was in vegas i just didn't want 94 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:25,120 to go i was in one of those moods where 95 00:03:29,190 --> 00:03:27,120 it was like do i want to deal with them 96 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:29,200 haranguing me about insurance do you 97 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:31,360 know it goes on and on it's like you 98 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:33,519 know i've gotten to the point 99 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:35,920 where is it worth all the paperwork the 100 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:38,159 headache the hassle afterwards the 101 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:40,799 trying to get the the co-pay thing to go 102 00:03:45,589 --> 00:03:43,120 through the you know all that or go to 103 00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:45,599 the hospital you know i'm just like do i 104 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:47,519 even want to bother the last time i went 105 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:50,239 to a hospital in another state it took 106 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:53,280 me seven months to straighten it out 107 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:55,280 seven months and they kept billing me 108 00:03:59,589 --> 00:03:56,720 for stuff i wasn't supposed to have to 109 00:04:01,270 --> 00:03:59,599 pay for and i just it's like everything 110 00:04:03,030 --> 00:04:01,280 has gotten out of control i was just 111 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:03,040 telling my good friend robert peralta 112 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:05,680 the other day i said you know i am done 113 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:08,720 every day is like just to pay my bills 114 00:04:14,949 --> 00:04:11,200 is a whole day-long operation 115 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:14,959 it's insane you know and i just i wonder 116 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:16,720 how more you know just normal people 117 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:18,239 survive of course they don't have as 118 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:21,359 complicated the life as i do but still 119 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:23,600 you know it's just everything's a big 120 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:26,160 hassle it takes so much time you know i 121 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:28,800 give anything to go back to 1970 when i 122 00:04:31,990 --> 00:04:30,880 had two checks to write one for the 123 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:32,000 phone 124 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:34,080 one for the electric company and then 125 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:36,240 i'd walk next door and pay my rent and 126 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:43,670 let me tell you anyhow so um enough 127 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:45,919 about me and my crazy life i want to say 128 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:48,160 out there that uh let's see what's 129 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:50,240 happened uh any i'm trying to think if 130 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:52,639 anything is coming up oh yes 131 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:54,479 there is something coming up if you guys 132 00:04:59,510 --> 00:04:57,600 are anywhere near northern california 133 00:05:00,629 --> 00:04:59,520 and you're got nothing to do halloween 134 00:05:03,909 --> 00:05:00,639 weekend 135 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:03,919 i'm going to be hosting a ufo 136 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:05,600 alien panel 137 00:05:09,909 --> 00:05:06,960 that's called 138 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:09,919 ufos and aliens are they paranormal and 139 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:11,680 it's going to be at a big halloween 140 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:14,320 event they expect about 10 000 people 141 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:16,880 there it's halloween con or something 142 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:18,800 like that and it's all around 143 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:21,759 scary movies and famous monsters and 144 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:24,960 that kind of thing but they wanted a ufo 145 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:27,600 twist to the whole event this year and 146 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:29,600 they brought me in and a few of my 147 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:30,880 friends and we're going to do it it'll 148 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:33,360 be a lot of fun so if you're into that 149 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:34,720 kind of thing and you're in northern 150 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:36,560 california or even southern california 151 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:38,479 you want to drive up for the weekend 152 00:05:44,870 --> 00:05:41,039 it is a really fun event everybody comes 153 00:05:46,469 --> 00:05:44,880 in costumes and it is just it's wild 154 00:05:48,629 --> 00:05:46,479 it's one of the wildest things i've ever 155 00:05:50,710 --> 00:05:48,639 gone to my entire life i don't dress up 156 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:50,720 in a costume i'm like i'm like the only 157 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:52,320 person there maybe there's two other 158 00:05:55,749 --> 00:05:54,000 people there that are like me that don't 159 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:55,759 wear a costume but that's it i mean 160 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:58,000 everybody's in costume including the 161 00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:59,840 other people that are speakers at these 162 00:06:03,510 --> 00:06:01,600 things you know these cons are very 163 00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:03,520 different than the old style conferences 164 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:04,479 so 165 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:07,680 make that uh i'll get that up on my 166 00:06:10,150 --> 00:06:09,440 website sometime this week i'm going to 167 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:10,160 be 168 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:13,120 revamping my entire website in the next 169 00:06:17,189 --> 00:06:15,440 two weeks so everything i'll announce it 170 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:17,199 to you guys what i'm doing out there i 171 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:19,120 am starting a membership 172 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:20,960 site so you guys can listen to my other 173 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:23,120 shows and i'm doing a lot of things so 174 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:25,360 anyhow i'll keep you posted i promise 175 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:27,360 promise promise so there we are and 176 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:29,680 don't forget international ufo congress 177 00:06:33,830 --> 00:06:32,319 is coming up in february so start 178 00:06:36,390 --> 00:06:33,840 planning for it now i'm going to be 179 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:36,400 there broadcasting live maybe doing a 180 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:38,160 few other things with them i don't know 181 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:39,840 alejandro and i are just starting to 182 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,199 talk about it 183 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:43,440 but uh i hope you guys are going to make 184 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:45,120 that one it's always great and if you're 185 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:46,960 in northern california at the end of 186 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:49,840 march next year or even you know oregon 187 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:52,080 washington southern california be sure 188 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:54,720 to get to ufo and conspiracy con i'm 189 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:56,960 putting on a a different kind of event 190 00:07:00,550 --> 00:06:58,479 this year so it's gonna be great so 191 00:07:02,309 --> 00:07:00,560 anyhow we're just getting all jacked up 192 00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:02,319 and ready for next year i don't know why 193 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:03,919 it all seems like it's winding down but 194 00:07:07,110 --> 00:07:05,599 it really isn't there's still more 195 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:07,120 things to come 196 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:08,639 for the season you know but once the 197 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:10,080 holidays happen 198 00:07:15,270 --> 00:07:12,720 these things slow down a bit so anyhow 199 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:15,280 okay tyler how are you doing my friend i 200 00:07:19,110 --> 00:07:16,880 haven't talked to you for so long are 201 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:19,120 you okay what's up 202 00:07:27,189 --> 00:07:24,309 no 203 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:27,199 yeah go ahead say that one more time 204 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:28,960 over here in boston now 205 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:31,440 yeah i know it's such a big difference 206 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:33,120 for you because you know you grew up in 207 00:07:36,629 --> 00:07:35,599 washington state right 208 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:36,639 yeah 209 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:42,080 and from wild west you know so 210 00:07:47,189 --> 00:07:44,800 yeah and isn't it weird going back there 211 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:47,199 and the culture's so different than what 212 00:07:52,070 --> 00:07:50,000 we grew up in i just you know every time 213 00:07:54,629 --> 00:07:52,080 i back east i'm kind of i feel so out of 214 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:54,639 place but are you handling it okay are 215 00:07:59,029 --> 00:07:56,319 you doing all right 216 00:08:01,830 --> 00:07:59,039 no i've i've embraced it 217 00:08:02,869 --> 00:08:01,840 you've embraced it 218 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:02,879 now uh 219 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:04,560 everywhere i go 220 00:08:07,350 --> 00:08:06,319 there is some there's there's always an 221 00:08:10,469 --> 00:08:07,360 interesting 222 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:10,479 attitude of the boston bostonian uh you 223 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:13,520 know the the the the what they call fish 224 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:15,840 town and the whole bit down there 225 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:17,520 yeah no there's there's a greater 226 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:19,199 there's a greater purpose for me to come 227 00:08:22,150 --> 00:08:20,560 out here and 228 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:22,160 there's a lot of interesting places out 229 00:08:25,110 --> 00:08:24,080 here you just have to know where to find 230 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:25,120 them 231 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:27,759 yeah yeah that's true well you know that 232 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:30,400 kind of leads me to how we met now back 233 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:33,440 in what when did we meet 2012 i think 234 00:08:37,029 --> 00:08:34,880 for the first uh 235 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:37,039 super soldier conference in marin county 236 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:39,599 didn't you just show up with 237 00:08:42,709 --> 00:08:40,719 i did 238 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:42,719 you did and you were wonderful you know 239 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:44,480 if it wasn't for tyler i got to tell 240 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:46,800 everybody was it for tyler that year i 241 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:48,000 don't know if i could have made it 242 00:08:51,509 --> 00:08:49,600 through it because he really kept me 243 00:08:53,910 --> 00:08:51,519 grounded i don't know if he realized 244 00:08:55,990 --> 00:08:53,920 that maybe he did but he was the 245 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:56,000 grounding force of that whole conference 246 00:08:59,190 --> 00:08:56,880 you know 247 00:09:01,670 --> 00:08:59,200 tyler i have never really talked about 248 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:01,680 this much i know james brought it up on 249 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:04,880 his uh super soldier site uh james rank 250 00:09:10,949 --> 00:09:08,160 at one point after max died he started 251 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:10,959 to tell the story about how max almost 252 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:16,870 what was that i'm aware of all of that 253 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:18,320 yes the video 254 00:09:23,509 --> 00:09:21,040 yes i know about that yeah and you know 255 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:23,519 it kind of it kind of made me mad and 256 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:24,880 i'll tell you why 257 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:28,480 i don't remember it the way he does 258 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:31,920 he made it sound like he saved max 259 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:35,120 and uh when max was laying on the couch 260 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:37,440 on my lap and i was feeling his chest 261 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:40,080 and he was not breathing very much 262 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:42,320 and i said okay you guys were take i'm 263 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:44,800 taking him to the hospital right now 264 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:46,560 and they were all just standing around 265 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:49,200 looking at us right i mean it was no i 266 00:09:53,509 --> 00:09:51,760 i remember the exact uh scene you're 267 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:53,519 talking about i just came out of the 268 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:55,600 other room and you told me 269 00:10:00,389 --> 00:09:56,959 and actually told me to get ready to go 270 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:00,399 with you yep i did i did i was flipping 271 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:02,240 out because you know he was in bad shape 272 00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:04,000 and i knew it and i said there's no way 273 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:06,160 this is that you know we're going to the 274 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:08,480 hospital right now and uh 275 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:11,120 anyhow so it just made me kind of angry 276 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:13,680 that james got up there and said 277 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:15,360 that he saved him 278 00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:17,279 i was like yeah right 279 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:18,480 but uh 280 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:21,040 anyhow so needless to say so do do you 281 00:10:25,829 --> 00:10:23,760 want to tell people 282 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:25,839 a little bit about that conference from 283 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:27,760 your perspective 284 00:10:31,509 --> 00:10:29,920 okay 285 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:31,519 tell us what you thought about it and 286 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:34,000 what you did and what you remember 287 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:36,720 okay well um 288 00:10:41,190 --> 00:10:39,120 i was still 289 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:41,200 kind of going through a long 290 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:43,440 stairwell of an awakening process you 291 00:10:48,389 --> 00:10:46,480 know each step was kind of a day 292 00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:48,399 if you know what i mean 293 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:50,320 so every day i would 294 00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:52,720 take that next step and 295 00:10:56,949 --> 00:10:55,200 and knowledge and 296 00:10:59,190 --> 00:10:56,959 just everything that was going on with 297 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:59,200 me and everything going on around me and 298 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:01,040 when i ended up there 299 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:03,760 yeah we should preface this with um 300 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:06,240 isn't max the person that told you about 301 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:08,720 the conference 302 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:13,040 um originally it was i believe james 303 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:14,399 rank actually 304 00:11:19,269 --> 00:11:16,800 oh really okay that's wonderful i wasn't 305 00:11:22,230 --> 00:11:19,279 quite sure if it was james or max so 306 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:22,240 that's great okay so james told me 307 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:25,120 yeah if i remember recall back i think 308 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:31,350 for me to come 309 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:33,920 exactly and i think they asked if 310 00:11:37,269 --> 00:11:35,440 i think they got a hold of me ahead of 311 00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:37,279 time and said we have this guy we'd like 312 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:40,240 he'd like to come kenny and i said sure 313 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:42,800 i i don't remember a whole lot about it 314 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:45,040 except for that when you were there i 315 00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:47,200 was so grateful you had come that's all 316 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:49,360 i remember at the time i 317 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:51,040 i honestly wasn't even sure if i was 318 00:11:55,110 --> 00:11:53,360 going to be able to do it and 319 00:11:57,190 --> 00:11:55,120 just at the last minute everything fell 320 00:11:58,870 --> 00:11:57,200 into place so 321 00:12:00,470 --> 00:11:58,880 well you were definitely meant to be 322 00:12:03,430 --> 00:12:00,480 there because you were really a great 323 00:12:05,509 --> 00:12:03,440 help to me and the second one you were 324 00:12:06,949 --> 00:12:05,519 wonderful help to me and you just always 325 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:06,959 been there for me and i really do 326 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:09,040 appreciate that tyler because 327 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:10,800 the problem in this whole group of 328 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:12,480 people as you know and you've learned 329 00:12:16,230 --> 00:12:14,240 along the way 330 00:12:18,790 --> 00:12:16,240 is no matter what you do 331 00:12:20,949 --> 00:12:18,800 they're always programmed to go against 332 00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:20,959 you at some point or another and pretty 333 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:23,600 much stab you in the back and 334 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:26,320 and i get that and there have been 335 00:12:31,509 --> 00:12:28,720 points and times where i've heard rumor 336 00:12:33,430 --> 00:12:31,519 in in stories from everybody about 337 00:12:36,069 --> 00:12:33,440 everybody stabbing me in the back and i 338 00:12:37,990 --> 00:12:36,079 get it and i get that it happens 339 00:12:40,550 --> 00:12:38,000 um but the one part that i've always 340 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:40,560 been steadfast about is the fact that no 341 00:12:44,629 --> 00:12:42,800 matter what happens to this original 342 00:12:46,949 --> 00:12:44,639 group of people who got involved with 343 00:12:48,389 --> 00:12:46,959 the first super soldier awakening here 344 00:12:51,190 --> 00:12:48,399 in america 345 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:51,200 is that i've always got you guys's back 346 00:12:55,829 --> 00:12:53,760 no matter what happens because you know 347 00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:55,839 i tell i tell people even on there to 348 00:13:01,269 --> 00:12:58,079 this day hey james and i don't see eye 349 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:01,279 to eye but you know it's okay you know 350 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:03,040 i've had i've had my moments with him 351 00:13:07,990 --> 00:13:05,200 and you know about it too because it's 352 00:13:10,310 --> 00:13:08,000 when he was starting to do these things 353 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:10,320 where he calls it a reading or a 354 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:12,560 regression or something 355 00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:15,360 and i keep telling him you can't be 356 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:17,279 doing regressions 357 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:20,160 on people without a hypnotherapy license 358 00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:22,959 you know you just don't do it and uh it 359 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:25,200 just bothers me that he's not a trained 360 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:27,440 regressionist and then he goes out and 361 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:29,360 does these regressions you know it makes 362 00:13:33,829 --> 00:13:32,000 me nuts but i still love him you know in 363 00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:33,839 spite of all of it but i'm not going to 364 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:35,519 put up with that because 365 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:37,200 you know to me it's not a good thing to 366 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:39,120 be doing if you're not trained you 367 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:41,440 shouldn't be messing with this at all 368 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:43,200 yeah 369 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:49,360 don't you don't have to i just wanted to 370 00:13:53,110 --> 00:13:51,519 make that real clear to people but 371 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:53,120 you've never done anything weird like 372 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:55,680 that so 373 00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:57,519 so i don't have a problem with anything 374 00:14:01,910 --> 00:13:59,680 you've been doing as a matter of fact 375 00:14:05,590 --> 00:14:01,920 you guys tyler's the first guy that i 376 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:05,600 ever met that had an amazing recall from 377 00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:08,000 and i hope i can say this tyler from 378 00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:09,839 being on ships 379 00:14:14,389 --> 00:14:12,160 long before i heard people like corey 380 00:14:16,629 --> 00:14:14,399 good or you know even about mark 381 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:16,639 richards um 382 00:14:19,990 --> 00:14:18,160 tyler was telling me stuff that was 383 00:14:21,910 --> 00:14:20,000 absolutely amazing 384 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:21,920 so you know again 385 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:24,240 my whole thing about this whole corey 386 00:14:28,150 --> 00:14:26,240 good thing that's going on 387 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:28,160 tyler is one of those guys that i'd say 388 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:30,480 has 10 times more experiences than corey 389 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:33,120 goode probably has ever had and has 390 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:35,360 amazing things to tell people 391 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:37,600 but you know he's not out there you know 392 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:44,710 here you are not that you wouldn't right 393 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:47,120 yeah i haven't had a chance i'll be 394 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:49,440 honest i've been so wrapped up just with 395 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:52,240 my family and just taking care of myself 396 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:54,240 and uh 397 00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:56,320 just trying to heal all my different 398 00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:58,000 things that i have going on that i 399 00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:59,920 haven't even had a chance to follow all 400 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:01,680 the other people and 401 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:03,279 see if there's a synchronicity or 402 00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:05,120 anything or 403 00:15:10,829 --> 00:15:07,279 well you know tyler i think there is i 404 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:10,839 think there's no there might be and uh 405 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:12,639 so 406 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:16,880 i'm gonna have to get a hold of you 407 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:18,720 again and and we'll have to reconnect 408 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:20,320 and i'm gonna turn you on to some new 409 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:22,000 people that i've met that i think you 410 00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:24,720 would be really interested in talking to 411 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:26,639 because they have some amazing parallels 412 00:15:31,350 --> 00:15:28,800 to what you were talking about so 413 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:31,360 uh you know i kind of cut you off at the 414 00:15:34,470 --> 00:15:33,120 knees about what happened at that 415 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:34,480 conference so why don't you go ahead and 416 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:35,760 tell people and you know what we're not 417 00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:37,600 going to take a break tonight mj at the 418 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:40,160 bottom of the hour because i know 419 00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:42,560 tyler's got a lot to say so 420 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:44,880 so let's let's go back to that that 421 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:47,040 moment in time and talk a little bit 422 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:48,320 about uh 423 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:51,120 your involvement and max and in your 424 00:15:55,749 --> 00:15:54,240 whole take from that 425 00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:55,759 so uh 426 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:57,839 that's like the be at the beginning of 427 00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:00,480 the conference or just uh yeah yeah just 428 00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:02,399 your whole take on that whole conference 429 00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,040 and and what max was doing at the time 430 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:07,279 and first that kind of thing first i 431 00:16:10,629 --> 00:16:09,279 just want to say just a quick couple 432 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,639 sentences on 433 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:12,720 what it took to get there because it 434 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:14,560 isn't it's it's a slightly interesting 435 00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:17,600 story it is i remember yeah go ahead at 436 00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:20,000 the time i didn't have a vehicle 437 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:22,720 well i did but it wasn't operable and 438 00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:25,440 then i didn't have the funds 439 00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:27,680 and i was also taking care of two 440 00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:29,600 elderly people which were my 441 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:31,199 grandparents 442 00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:32,399 and 443 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:35,279 at literally the day before all the 444 00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:38,480 funds had had just kind of 445 00:16:42,310 --> 00:16:39,839 just acquired 446 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:42,320 in my wallet it was amazing 447 00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:44,800 so anyway i had got all the money 448 00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:49,199 together and the day before i did the uh 449 00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:51,279 the brakes on a van 450 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:53,759 in my front yard 451 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:54,560 uh 452 00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:56,639 just with a few tools and the bare 453 00:17:02,870 --> 00:16:59,040 necessities to save money 454 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:02,880 and did the rotors and the uh brake pads 455 00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:05,280 with just a hand um 456 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:06,640 um 457 00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:09,439 tire iron from the back of the van 458 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:11,600 and spend a couple hours out there and 459 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:13,280 probably save myself about a thousand 460 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:15,039 dollars in labor 461 00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:17,360 that's right yeah 462 00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:19,120 so 463 00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:21,039 and i actually did a really premier job 464 00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:22,559 i went and broke them in professionally 465 00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:24,799 and everything 466 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:26,240 so 467 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:28,720 that was just wonderful yeah 468 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:30,640 yeah i remember that you were telling me 469 00:17:33,909 --> 00:17:32,240 that it was just like a last minute 470 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:33,919 thing and you were so lucky you'd done 471 00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:36,160 everything and uh kind of got ready and 472 00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:37,840 it and the money came through and you 473 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:40,240 were ready to zip down there and you did 474 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:42,720 you drove all the way from uh washington 475 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:45,440 state to northern california and i did 476 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:46,160 it 477 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:47,440 in one day 478 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:48,640 yep 479 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:50,240 which i've done before and it's not a 480 00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:53,440 whole lot of fun is it it's a long drive 481 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:54,720 i somehow 482 00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:57,120 literally like as the it was almost like 483 00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:58,640 one of those movies where you're racing 484 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:01,360 to get to the destination before the sun 485 00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:03,440 goes down 486 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:05,840 it was literally just like that 487 00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:06,720 racing 488 00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,520 san francisco before the sun gets down 489 00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:11,679 that was great yeah so anyhow so you 490 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:13,679 were kind of really blessed to get there 491 00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:15,760 and join us which was amazing you got 492 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:17,280 there just in time i think to help us 493 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:20,480 set up and yeah we're moving along and 494 00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:22,799 it was fabulous and then 495 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:25,039 no it was kind of sad but i had you guys 496 00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:26,960 all staying at a house which was 497 00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:28,480 wonderful i i 498 00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:30,080 hope it was wonderful for you guys it 499 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:31,679 was wonderful for me 500 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:33,200 because i got to come over and hang out 501 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:34,559 with you a little bit instead of being 502 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:37,120 at a hotel which is the one at san 503 00:18:41,669 --> 00:18:38,640 rafael 504 00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,679 yeah yeah the house we had in navato 505 00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:43,039 okay yeah 506 00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:46,160 that was a lot of fun so anyhow um let's 507 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,880 move on to the conference itself what 508 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:50,400 did you think of 509 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:52,880 the pr presenters it was the first time 510 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:54,880 you'd seen anything like that had you 511 00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:58,240 met james before have you met max before 512 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:00,960 i i had heard of douglas and some of the 513 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:04,160 others before i just had never uh 514 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:06,480 really reviewed their material before 515 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,919 i'd met them 516 00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:09,840 interesting had you heard of solaris 517 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:11,840 blue raven before then 518 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,720 no 519 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:15,360 oh yeah okay cool so this is kind of 520 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:17,760 like a whole new world for you at that 521 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:20,000 point yeah there you know there was 522 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:22,000 there was a purpose for me to be there 523 00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:22,880 so 524 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:29,760 um before the first conference the 525 00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:32,000 reason you guys met was because you were 526 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:34,880 giving him wasn't it coordinates to 527 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,880 different areas where there might be 528 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,880 underground bases 529 00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:40,640 yeah 530 00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:43,600 it was very intriguing to me are you 531 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:45,440 still doing any of that 532 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:48,000 so here's the brief 533 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,320 here's the brief okay folks 534 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,559 perk up your ears here we go 535 00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,720 it's it's buried in the archives in the 536 00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:56,559 internet but it's not easy to find 537 00:20:03,190 --> 00:19:59,360 because it was deleted from uh 538 00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,200 the super soldier talk uh blog 539 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:05,280 so uh 540 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:08,480 at one point i released 27 541 00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:11,280 different bases 542 00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:14,799 with photos coordinates and explanations 543 00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:16,720 of 544 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:19,039 not what each one was but 545 00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:22,320 a reference to tie it into the hollywood 546 00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:23,520 theme 547 00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:24,559 because 548 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:26,480 of all the information stolen in the 549 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:28,080 past 550 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:30,799 oh okay now wait a minute 551 00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:32,799 now i just got lost because you said it 552 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:35,039 referencing a hollywood theme but 553 00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:36,960 because of information stolen from past 554 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:38,960 so i'm confused okay 555 00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:42,240 with each base that i released 556 00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:44,880 there would be so many images within the 557 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:46,840 base 558 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:48,960 architecture and i would use those 559 00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:51,520 images and reference them to 560 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:55,120 um hollywood um marvel type things 561 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:57,120 and you know 562 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,240 so that way when people would look up 563 00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:02,640 those things it would come up 564 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:05,120 and it's also it's it's i i did it in 565 00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:06,799 the same way the illuminati does where 566 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:09,120 they do more than one thing in one 567 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:10,480 one move 568 00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:11,760 i gotcha 569 00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:16,789 yeah you know what i'm saying 570 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,600 i do i understand completely and so you 571 00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:21,280 would call something like you know 572 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:24,880 underground bunker ant-man or 573 00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:27,760 or thor's hammer or something right let 574 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,320 me give you an example um sure on the 575 00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,400 mount adams one i did 576 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,159 i had astro 577 00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:36,240 up there was an actual picture of that 578 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:38,559 what looked like astro on the side 579 00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:40,720 and that's the dog from the george 580 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:42,400 jetsons cartoon 581 00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:47,360 right okay another one was um 582 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:50,799 the the teacher from um 583 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,200 simpsons 584 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:54,720 oh okay 585 00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,960 okay and each one it was almost coded 586 00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,640 too the way i did it 587 00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:00,240 because 588 00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,280 it's not it wasn't 589 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:05,039 everybody has to understand that that 590 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,470 no longer exists 591 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:12,960 oh really so you're not doing the remote 592 00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:15,600 viewing type of stuff anymore that you 593 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:19,039 were doing back in 2012 13 and 14. i i 594 00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:22,480 can still do that it's just that uh 595 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:25,039 i'm on to other things it's just there's 596 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:26,400 okay so 597 00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:28,720 so this is the reason though because you 598 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:31,039 were doing some phenomenal work tyler 599 00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:32,480 because 600 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:35,840 okay so no let me take some steps back 601 00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:39,520 yeah the 27 bases between mars the moon 602 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:41,440 and earth 603 00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:42,640 okay 604 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:44,400 um 605 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:47,120 four of them were were on uh 606 00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:48,159 mars 607 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:51,360 one of them was ceruli crater 608 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:52,840 another one was 609 00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,440 um i'm trying to think all the names 610 00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,679 it's been so long 611 00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:59,039 well now this 612 00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:00,559 now people are listening to this and 613 00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:01,840 they're all going they're all rolling 614 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:03,039 their eyes back in their head and 615 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,480 they're kind of going what is all this 616 00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,400 craziness and i want you guys to hear 617 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:08,720 something very interesting 618 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,960 what tyler has been talking about all 619 00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:12,960 these years i kind of you know i listen 620 00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,440 to tyler what he has to say i stored it 621 00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,600 away in my head and i remembered this 622 00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,440 base on mars that he's talking about 623 00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,799 right now 624 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:23,520 and i have run into two other 625 00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:26,480 experiencer contactee 626 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:29,440 secret space program super soldier dudes 627 00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:30,640 that's all i'm going to call them right 628 00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:32,000 now because i don't know what else to 629 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,159 call them because like you know 630 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:36,240 my whole view on how everybody's labeled 631 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:38,080 this really changed over the years too 632 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:39,120 tyler 633 00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,480 so um 634 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,200 but anyhow i met two guys since then 635 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:46,000 that have told me about the same bases 636 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,720 you're talking about on mars and they 637 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:50,960 use the almost the same coordinates and 638 00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:54,480 the names of these places yeah yeah so i 639 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,240 and they don't know you and i would 640 00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,640 never tell you who they are so this is 641 00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:00,720 like blowing my mind when they told me 642 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,280 this stuff i went oh my god tyler told 643 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:05,840 me that it's really great it's a big one 644 00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,600 that's definitely a big one 645 00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:09,360 a lot of activity out of that one for 646 00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,400 sure 647 00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:12,880 exactly and that that's the one that one 648 00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:15,200 of them actually worked in he worked in 649 00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:16,960 that base 650 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,080 yeah yeah so i mean this is these are 651 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,840 the stories they're telling me so i'm 652 00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,840 like going okay so tyler was on to 653 00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,159 something really cool so 654 00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:28,320 for me though 655 00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,520 during all of my google earth campaign 656 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:33,840 which was part of an awakening process 657 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,520 where i weaponized a 200 laptop 658 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:38,960 um 659 00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:41,440 you certainly did because i remember 660 00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:43,279 weren't they hacking into your computer 661 00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:44,720 like every day 662 00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:52,070 you couldn't click on anything and 663 00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,240 you know you'd sometimes see the mouse 664 00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:56,960 arrow go across by itself and 665 00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:58,880 it definitely wasn't a ghost or anything 666 00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,200 like that no no it was somebody plus it 667 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,080 was a really cheap laptop i'm sure it 668 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,760 wouldn't take much more than a youtube 669 00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:07,440 video of 670 00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,640 training and 671 00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:10,159 probably hack it 672 00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:13,120 yeah oh yeah well the thing is you know 673 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:14,559 you and i were experiencing a lot of the 674 00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:16,720 same things at the same time 675 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:20,000 yeah 2012 and 14 i would be at five 676 00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:21,360 o'clock in the morning i'd be in front 677 00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:23,200 of my computer and suddenly the mouse is 678 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:25,760 going around clicking on files so i'd be 679 00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,760 like okay they're obviously in here 680 00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:29,279 poking around i think i'll just go to 681 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:31,039 bed and let them you know that's what i 682 00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:33,120 did i just like i gave up i just if 683 00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,240 they're gonna get in there they're gonna 684 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,159 get in there right there's not a whole 685 00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,000 lot you can do about it 686 00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:40,320 that's really no longer an issue for me 687 00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,679 though 688 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:43,120 yeah me either 689 00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:43,919 so 690 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,760 what do you think changed for everybody 691 00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:47,200 i mean i've talked to a lot of people 692 00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:50,159 that they're not being bothered anymore 693 00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:51,120 um 694 00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,679 it may be that i just 695 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:55,200 looked a few people in the eye once in 696 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:56,450 passing 697 00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:58,400 [Laughter] 698 00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:01,039 i know that feeling let me tell you you 699 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:02,960 know mine was a little different instead 700 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:05,520 of me having to confront them with the 701 00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:08,000 evil eye like you did 702 00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:10,640 i actually prayed a lot and i got some 703 00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,440 protection and it really it wasn't 704 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,760 it wasn't evil it was it was just like i 705 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:17,200 know 706 00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,840 yeah 707 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,360 hey did you ever get to meet james 708 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,760 caspel you did did you at the 2013 709 00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:27,760 conference yeah 710 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:30,799 so let's let's uh let's go to two 711 00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:33,360 different places okay um 712 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:36,880 first let's go back to the night that um 713 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,400 i saved max with your help and james's 714 00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,240 help getting him in the car because i 715 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,000 remember you guys really helped me a lot 716 00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:45,600 getting him in the car 717 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,640 did you go to the hospital with me 718 00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:50,720 we did we went to the hospital james was 719 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:52,960 there for that but 720 00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,640 james didn't go to the hospital did he 721 00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:56,159 because wasn't he back at the house and 722 00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,640 i was texting him to try to get the 723 00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:02,080 pictures of the bottles of the 724 00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,279 the the drugs that max had taken 725 00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:07,919 um he had that with us 726 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,880 oh we did okay i thought i thought for 727 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:12,880 sure that we were i cuz i remember 728 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:15,600 showing it to the doctor my cell phone 729 00:27:18,390 --> 00:27:16,559 so 730 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:18,400 or maybe we had the wrong thing or 731 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,510 now but maybe we send him back to the 732 00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:25,600 house to take pictures and email him to 733 00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:27,279 us i think that's what happened at the 734 00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,600 time because we didn't know and then he 735 00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:31,919 went back to the house 736 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,120 yeah because 737 00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,440 we uh you had to stay there for like an 738 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,760 hour or something or two hours oh i was 739 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:39,840 there until four o'clock in the morning 740 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:43,840 yeah whatever it was yeah it was ugly 741 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:46,000 after a while or something 742 00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:47,760 yeah so i think you guys went back to 743 00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,080 the house if i remember correctly and i 744 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,320 just stayed with them but you know what 745 00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:54,480 people don't get is max had a lot of 746 00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,399 things going on in his life and he 747 00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,399 wasn't if everybody doesn't know who i'm 748 00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,960 talking about just look up max spears on 749 00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,559 the internet and you'll find out 750 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,000 everything you need to know i'm not 751 00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:06,240 going to go into it all i'm tired of 752 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:09,279 going into it all but max was uh the 753 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:10,240 first 754 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,960 i met james rink and max beer yeah max 755 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,320 bears the first 756 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,559 weekend that i got into all of this 757 00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,960 stuff and all the super soldier stuff 758 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,360 and uh so james and max were like my 759 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,200 first two and then tyler was like but 760 00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,360 the third child in the process and then 761 00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:27,039 it just grew from there 762 00:28:33,149 --> 00:28:29,840 and then caspel came along for the next 763 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,159 year's event so um so let's talk about 764 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:35,840 2013's uh super soldier conference 765 00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,080 instead of 12 12 we we now know that max 766 00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,080 overdosed and i took him to the hospital 767 00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:44,159 with your help and and james's help at 768 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:45,360 first 769 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:47,840 and uh we got him there we saved his 770 00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:50,000 life we got him back going again and he 771 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:51,360 is now dead 772 00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:53,360 from something that happened to him 773 00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,399 poland do you have any idea what might 774 00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,799 have happened to max in poland at the 775 00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,000 time 776 00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:02,399 of his death 777 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:03,679 well i 778 00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:07,120 i spoke to him about 779 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:09,440 maybe four or five days prior 780 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:12,399 oh you did oh god i'm so glad you did 781 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,320 how is he doing 782 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,320 um he 783 00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,559 he actually was giving me just some like 784 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:20,720 uh health food advice if you really want 785 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,080 to know 786 00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:24,480 that's good i mean he was pretty into 787 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:27,440 that he had his his act together on it 788 00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,960 um i'm i'm a little concerned about some 789 00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:32,880 of the people that were around him at 790 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:37,360 the time of his death and i think too um 791 00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:40,000 he had actually asked me on facebook if 792 00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:41,440 uh 793 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:43,919 just for some clues on what like 794 00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:46,159 what type of uh words that you know 795 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:52,070 just to mess with him you know 796 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:55,039 mm-hmm uh like altered stuff trigger 797 00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,480 words and things 798 00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:58,720 exactly yeah because see i have a 799 00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:01,200 feeling and nothing against a lot of 800 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,720 people i'm not even saying names i'm 801 00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:04,480 just gonna say this folks 802 00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,919 i think there were some players out 803 00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:07,520 there that were meant to take him down 804 00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,320 because they weren't helping him when he 805 00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:13,200 he in my opinion tyler and this is just 806 00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:14,720 my opinion 807 00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:16,720 i think he he broke down and i think he 808 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,720 was doing drugs again but instead of 809 00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,640 somebody there and the reason i brought 810 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,039 this all up about 2012 when we all took 811 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,440 him to the hospital and saved his life 812 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,320 in 2012 there was nobody there and you 813 00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:30,320 know in 2017 814 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,480 to save him this time they all just let 815 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:35,120 him die and it was almost ritualistic 816 00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:40,310 i don't really feel that was the case on 817 00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,399 this on this don't 818 00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,799 goodbye summer hello new fall fashion 819 00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,559 this is a great time to shop macy's 820 00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,799 backstage i know prices are so low you 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836 00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:29,200 he had a website going 837 00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,640 yeah 838 00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:33,200 that he had planned to try to fix things 839 00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:34,960 with uh sarah 840 00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:35,919 right 841 00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:37,360 or at least try to 842 00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:39,679 and yeah he had a bunch of positive 843 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:42,640 goals going on at least it seemed 844 00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:44,080 on the phone 845 00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,159 and he felt that there was a few people 846 00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:49,039 that were interfering with uh 847 00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:51,039 that process 848 00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:53,279 right some way 849 00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:57,440 and and it was more on a personal 850 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:00,480 uh social matter i think because of the 851 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:03,440 way he was asking me for uh 852 00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:06,240 advice on like uh just different words 853 00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:09,360 and i was trying to think of a way to 854 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:12,559 you know put words out there but not 855 00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:15,600 you know trigger someone 856 00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:17,039 exactly 857 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:17,919 well 858 00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,679 it's just i don't know something's 859 00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:21,840 rotten in denmark with this whole death 860 00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,559 um it it makes sense to me though that 861 00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:26,799 he might have gotten a hold of um you 862 00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:28,880 know a batch of drugs 863 00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:32,320 and and maybe od but even if he did od 864 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,080 it was obvious to them i mean during 865 00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:36,240 that interview the day before wasn't it 866 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,519 the day before he did that interview 867 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:41,760 where he was passing out 868 00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:44,720 are you aware that uh 869 00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,669 a professional um certified reiki healer 870 00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:54,000 and another healer heal him 871 00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:55,279 uh no 872 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,549 oh well if they had done that i've 873 00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,640 actually been reaching out to multiple 874 00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:04,000 people for 875 00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:05,519 um 876 00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:07,519 support like healing and all kinds of 877 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,350 he was networking with more people than 878 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,360 i think everybody was aware of 879 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,440 well i'm sure he was i know he was 880 00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:19,760 involved with a gentleman i'm not going 881 00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:22,399 to mention that we all know about 882 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:24,799 montauk guy and you know just a whole 883 00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,440 bunch of people and i get that but if 884 00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:29,120 you're telling me he had somebody 885 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,919 working on him tyler that scares me 886 00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:33,760 because that means the people that were 887 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,679 working on him may have not been really 888 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,039 working on him they may have been 889 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:39,279 killing him no 890 00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,120 no you don't think so the stuff that i'm 891 00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:44,000 talking about is uh 892 00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:46,240 these are this is this is an actual 893 00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:49,200 person with like a business 894 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,799 okay 895 00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:52,960 and do you think they were helping him 896 00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:54,159 yes i do 897 00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:57,440 oh okay okay and so he actually um said 898 00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,760 that he felt better in 899 00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,919 the reply and the message and continued 900 00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:03,919 on in the conversation for several days 901 00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,039 after that 902 00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:07,360 oh okay 903 00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,760 well so that's good so 904 00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:12,000 so what do you think it was though if it 905 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,480 wasn't a drug overdose which it kind of 906 00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,399 and only from my perspective having 907 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:18,240 dealt with him for so long for so many 908 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:21,200 years and knowing him as well as i did 909 00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:22,320 up until 910 00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:24,800 sarah you know basically got together 911 00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,000 with him and the two of them were 912 00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,000 together i was even in their life up for 913 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:29,839 a year after that so 914 00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:30,800 but 915 00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:32,960 knowing him as well as i did when i 916 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,679 heard him slurring and falling asleep 917 00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,520 during that interview 918 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,760 it just pulled at my heartstrings that 919 00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,320 he had gotten back on some you know some 920 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,639 downers or some drugs or something and i 921 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:47,280 just was very concerned that that might 922 00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:50,480 have been his demise but at the same 923 00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,760 time 924 00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,839 if you're listening to a guy on a radio 925 00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:56,159 show and he's having that going on tyler 926 00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,680 you know what i'd do if he was on my 927 00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,839 show and i was sitting right next to him 928 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:01,839 i would stop the show and i'd be taking 929 00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,760 them to the emergency room because 930 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,000 that's the kind of person i am what is 931 00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,320 wrong with the dude who is 932 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:10,480 letting him sit there and slur and fall 933 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:12,640 asleep and god knows what's wrong with 934 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:15,040 them and letting it go on i was i was 935 00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:17,200 absolutely appalled that that guy wasn't 936 00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:18,720 arrested 937 00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:21,599 for not helping him 938 00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:24,079 we have uh a multitude of factors we 939 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:27,440 have to keep in mind as well 940 00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,880 well and what are those in your opinion 941 00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,480 well there's multiple 942 00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:34,640 intelligence agencies 943 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:35,920 yeah 944 00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,520 that's true that are definitely uh 945 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,079 keeping an eye on everything 946 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:44,720 do you think that maybe he was being 947 00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:47,280 targeted with you know electronic 948 00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:50,000 warfare by and that's what was causing 949 00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:53,040 the slurry and the the sleepiness and 950 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,960 the could very well have been there 951 00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:56,000 that's 952 00:36:01,829 --> 00:35:58,880 because 953 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,839 i've been hit with things that um 954 00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:03,280 can impair you 955 00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,800 temporarily exactly me too 956 00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:07,920 another thing 957 00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:13,030 when he had spoken to me he didn't say 958 00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:14,079 it but 959 00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:17,040 i had almost wondered if maybe 960 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:19,040 someone had possibly been slipping 961 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,240 something in his 962 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,160 like drinks or food 963 00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,480 well that was just my thought 964 00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,560 yeah that was another thought i had i 965 00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:28,320 thought well if he didn't do it to 966 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:29,599 himself 967 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:32,320 maybe they were doing it to him 968 00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,320 and because 969 00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:36,560 yeah you have to think of all 970 00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,760 variables 971 00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:39,440 yeah and it's 972 00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:41,839 it's an ugly scene over there especially 973 00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,200 for the crew that's in charge over there 974 00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:47,520 well that's in your turf so 975 00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,640 yeah yeah yeah absolutely and i 976 00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:52,880 what bothers me about the european 977 00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:55,359 faction of this whole game that we've 978 00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:58,240 all gotten ourselves into at some level 979 00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:00,880 in the what i call the conscious super 980 00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:03,920 soldiers secret space program community 981 00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,480 is that you don't know who's 982 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,040 who's playing on whose side ever because 983 00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,040 in a lot of cases these guys are all 984 00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,000 programmed with 16 personalities like i 985 00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:16,240 mean let's go talk about uh 986 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,800 duncan for a minute duncan o'finion 987 00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:19,680 i mean 988 00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:21,920 i love the dude and he's you know he's 989 00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:24,960 been after me and bad-mouthing me since 990 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:28,640 day one when he decided lauren 991 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:31,760 yeah go ahead but i thought um another 992 00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:33,119 thing too 993 00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,320 is some subject content too 994 00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:38,160 can trigger 995 00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:40,800 a person to just not be responsive and 996 00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:43,760 not give you any straight answers and 997 00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,400 and pretty much put up a wall 998 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:48,720 well that's true yeah especially if 999 00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:51,520 you're programmed as much as max was 1000 00:38:02,550 --> 00:37:59,829 he was one of the elite ss under the uk 1001 00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,710 and also 1002 00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:06,560 also connected to the 1003 00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:10,880 to the uss side too as well so 1004 00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:12,880 it's a big connection 1005 00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:15,440 it's a huge connection and it also goes 1006 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:17,680 back to his connection with james caspel 1007 00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:20,320 because as you and i both know um the 1008 00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,160 next thing i wanted to talk about was 1009 00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:24,400 2013 and henderson 1010 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:27,200 because i i owe you an apology tyler 1011 00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:28,400 because 1012 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:31,200 i did not believe that we were all taken 1013 00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,400 that night and i was absolutely adamant 1014 00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:36,400 that i was going to go on air and i did 1015 00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:39,280 for four to five months after that event 1016 00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:41,760 and i pooh-poohed that whole thing 1017 00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:44,720 i absolutely was telling people that it 1018 00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,040 did not happen that people were having a 1019 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,760 mass hallucination and blah blah blah 1020 00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,760 but i'll tell you what happened and i i 1021 00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:53,119 don't know if i've ever mentioned this 1022 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:54,880 on air before 1023 00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:55,760 but 1024 00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,720 melinda leslie called me in september 1025 00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,400 now this was may that we had the 1026 00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:02,400 conference and then you and i went up to 1027 00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:05,119 rachel with ken and and then you went on 1028 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:07,359 to wherever you went to and we went back 1029 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:08,400 home 1030 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,520 um afterwards um but 1031 00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:13,520 that it was sunday night that we were 1032 00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,520 taken and you were part of it weren't 1033 00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:16,960 you weren't you part of the group that 1034 00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:21,109 yes 1035 00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,960 yeah i thought so 1036 00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:24,960 well anyhow 1037 00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:28,160 melinda calls me in september and says 1038 00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:31,040 lorian i'm having ptsd from us being 1039 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:33,440 taken on that at that conference and i'm 1040 00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,320 like 1041 00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,480 well you know it didn't happen melinda 1042 00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,000 but i'll listen to your story because 1043 00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:40,640 she's a friend right so i'm listening to 1044 00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:42,720 this whole story and then tyler at one 1045 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,920 point she says and the guy was wearing 1046 00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,320 and i had a complete flashback in the 1047 00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:51,440 moment of this perpetrator coming into 1048 00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:52,560 my room 1049 00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:55,040 and he's leaning over me and telling me 1050 00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:56,480 to get out of bed 1051 00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,520 and 1052 00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,280 i'm feeling 1053 00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:01,280 something brushing up against my nose 1054 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,280 and my chin i want to say it was dog 1055 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,359 tags but i don't think so i think it was 1056 00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:07,200 a necklace or something 1057 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:10,079 and i told her exactly what he was 1058 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,200 wearing 1059 00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:13,760 and i told her who it was and i think 1060 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,440 you know who it was 1061 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:16,720 and 1062 00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,040 that that was exactly what he was 1063 00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,119 wearing she was reading her notes from 1064 00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:25,599 the next day after it happened 1065 00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,800 so that that point tyler i realized that 1066 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,560 something happened to us all at that 1067 00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:31,920 conference 1068 00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,880 but i still was in denial but i at least 1069 00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,560 was starting to sink in that it was a 1070 00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,480 possibility so i'm at the point now 1071 00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:40,400 where i'm in acceptance 1072 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:43,440 i'm not sure i'm accepting all the way 1073 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,160 but i am an acceptance that it happened 1074 00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,000 and uh there's a couple other things 1075 00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,079 that she told me that made it really 1076 00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,400 clear to me that it probably did happen 1077 00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:55,359 and then um in 2014 which you weren't 1078 00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:56,800 there for 1079 00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,040 um she told misha johnston and uh joanne 1080 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:03,119 richards and niara eisley and a whole 1081 00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,200 bunch of people who was there being 1082 00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:07,520 taken and they didn't believe it either 1083 00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,400 but they went and got regressed to find 1084 00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,400 out if it was true or not and they all 1085 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,640 came out of their regressions knowing 1086 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:16,800 that it absolutely happened 1087 00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:18,319 so you know they've been trying to 1088 00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:20,160 convince me since then that it really 1089 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:23,359 did happen but anyhow so i i owe you an 1090 00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:26,000 apology aaron hicks an apology i owe 1091 00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,920 everybody an apology for how i treated 1092 00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,760 you guys the first month after this 1093 00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:31,680 because everybody's calling me saying no 1094 00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:34,160 it happened it happened i'm like no way 1095 00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:35,839 never happened you're gonna go on air 1096 00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:37,359 and deny it 1097 00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:38,240 you know 1098 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,119 i was totally like oh god i'm so nasty 1099 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:43,520 to you guys i felt so bad later but 1100 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,280 anyhow so 1101 00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:47,280 do you remember anything about that 1102 00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:49,520 night 1103 00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,720 i do 1104 00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,960 you do could you would you mind sharing 1105 00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,079 i mean we're at the point now where 1106 00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:56,160 everybody else is shared you might as 1107 00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:57,520 well share too and i'll tell you 1108 00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:58,480 something 1109 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:01,520 cow's bolt story is a complete croc as 1110 00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:03,280 you and i both know 1111 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,680 now that we know what really happened 1112 00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,160 we know that his story was totally 1113 00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:10,800 not the deal but anyhow do you remember 1114 00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:17,990 yeah yeah i had my face lasered open and 1115 00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,319 had a wire placed into my jaw and an 1116 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,040 implant placed in the back of my ear 1117 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,520 oh my god 1118 00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,520 that is very intriguing and i'll tell 1119 00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,440 you why folks you know you're just 1120 00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:31,440 freaking me out because misha said they 1121 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:40,390 what was that 1122 00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,760 i know that is i 1123 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,440 used a spell 1124 00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:47,520 to unlock my memories 1125 00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:50,560 oh wonderful okay so you did basic kind 1126 00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,040 of like self self hypnosis 1127 00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:55,280 and you did it through a magical 1128 00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,040 incantation and you got it to work 1129 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,599 no i placed a spell on a rock 1130 00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:03,520 and then i interacted it with my body 1131 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:05,119 electric field 1132 00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,240 okay and then over time 1133 00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,319 it intertwines through 1134 00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:12,000 the 1135 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:17,280 word that you say 1136 00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,480 and through that it pulls out what 1137 00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:23,040 you want which is 1138 00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:26,000 recall of past memories 1139 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,920 now that's you're going to have to teach 1140 00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:29,760 me how to do that 1141 00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,839 i'm going to call you for for magic 1142 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:34,240 lessons here pretty soon that is very 1143 00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:35,200 cool 1144 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,760 um okay so 1145 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,960 yeah go ahead 1146 00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,560 um well i was gonna 1147 00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,240 get into uh 1148 00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,480 since we've spoken i had my 1149 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,560 33rd birthday 1150 00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:47,920 some years back 1151 00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:50,800 yesterday at that time 1152 00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:53,359 at the time of me 1153 00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,079 turning that age 1154 00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:58,000 a great great many things were revealed 1155 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,589 of past lives um also other dimensions 1156 00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:07,200 places 1157 00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:11,280 multiple uh biblical characters 1158 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,560 um 1159 00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:14,400 all kinds of things that you would never 1160 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:16,960 think um 1161 00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,240 even things that happened even before 1162 00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:22,480 this planet was created 1163 00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:25,599 you know tyler if you said that to me 1164 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,839 you know back in 2012 or 13 i probably 1165 00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,359 would have looked at you cross-eyed but 1166 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,440 right now after what i've heard from 1167 00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,599 everybody else that i'm in communication 1168 00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:35,760 with about all this stuff there's 1169 00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:38,000 awakenings going on with you what i call 1170 00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,200 the kids 1171 00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:41,119 the people under 40 that are in this 1172 00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:43,760 whole consciousness um uh 1173 00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,240 expanded knowledge uh 1174 00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,319 realm where you guys are just you're 1175 00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,400 waking up like exponentially 1176 00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:52,880 i know and i have to go ahead let me 1177 00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:58,950 so in in order to prove what i just said 1178 00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:01,680 is i in fact chose 1179 00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:03,280 to come here 1180 00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:04,079 i 1181 00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,240 there's there's you have to understand 1182 00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:19,920 how to do that and then you can go 1183 00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:21,520 through a black hole 1184 00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:24,640 that's another way to come here 1185 00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,119 and that's what happened to me 1186 00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:29,440 god that is so cool and you know what 1187 00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:32,400 tyler i just heard a very similar thing 1188 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:35,200 from another guy about five months ago 1189 00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,400 and 1190 00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,560 yeah go ahead it's not that i'm separate 1191 00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:40,560 from the this 1192 00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:42,079 the whole 1193 00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,839 um human 1194 00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:45,520 soul group or anything like that it's 1195 00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,640 just i was 1196 00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,160 away 1197 00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,000 and now i'm back 1198 00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:52,079 in circulation at least for the time 1199 00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,280 being 1200 00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:56,240 and do you consider yourself uh 1201 00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,920 an alien or non-human or you just aware 1202 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,760 of your soul essence to the point where 1203 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:04,480 you understand this stuff 1204 00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:13,190 am 1205 00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,520 greats were in the past 1206 00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:21,359 the only difference with me is the only 1207 00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,200 difference with me is i possess the 1208 00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:25,280 genetic of both 1209 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,280 gods 1210 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,960 vampire 1211 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:30,880 and the aryan bloodline 1212 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,599 and and the area of the cherokee bud 1213 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,440 and cherokee outside now i have all 1214 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,440 these different headlines 1215 00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:39,760 intermixed within me 1216 00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,480 and then also if you take 1217 00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,880 the collins bloodline relation 1218 00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,319 that has 1219 00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,480 a definite 1220 00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:50,319 illuminati connection 1221 00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:51,760 you get 1222 00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,599 the perfect candidate for the god 1223 00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:55,359 projects 1224 00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:58,240 in the mk ultra industry 1225 00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:01,040 right right now yeah and the people that 1226 00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,480 are listening to this that are rolling 1227 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,480 their eyes again i got to tell you folks 1228 00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:06,319 tyler's on to something huge here 1229 00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:07,359 because 1230 00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:09,040 i didn't believe this either and i was 1231 00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:10,720 just on the phone the other day with 1232 00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:13,040 fritz springmeier and we were talking a 1233 00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,119 lot about the bloodlines and nick 1234 00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:17,440 redfern's very much into it as well so i 1235 00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,040 hope you people are listening to what 1236 00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:21,280 tyler's saying because tyler just gave 1237 00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:22,640 you the key 1238 00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:24,400 to a lot of things here 1239 00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,200 the perfect storm for mk ultra is a 1240 00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:29,680 combination of many things and tyler has 1241 00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:32,480 them all so go ahead tyler go ahead okay 1242 00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:33,280 yeah 1243 00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:34,480 okay 1244 00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,560 so um 1245 00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:38,880 what's happened is 1246 00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:42,240 is there's some ss that can okay i want 1247 00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:44,079 to get the whole super soldier thing out 1248 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,440 of the way right now 1249 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,200 sure go for it 1250 00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,440 in the underground it's not called that 1251 00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:51,119 and i was going to say that on carrie 1252 00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:52,400 cassidy's video 1253 00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:53,680 but 1254 00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,839 i wasn't comfortable 1255 00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,680 so i decided not to 1256 00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:00,000 go into depths of information but it 1257 00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,359 ties into 1258 00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:03,520 the itching 1259 00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:05,440 book of change 1260 00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,599 and the true ss are superior soldiers 1261 00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:11,520 they're the superior man 1262 00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,280 they know what powers they need they 1263 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,680 know what powers they don't 1264 00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:17,520 they know when to talk and then when not 1265 00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:18,720 to 1266 00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,960 the superior man that's a superior man 1267 00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:32,400 okay 1268 00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,960 is this that's the truth 1269 00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:36,880 yeah it because 1270 00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:39,119 that's the true super soldier the ss 1271 00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:41,359 because it's basically it came out of 1272 00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:44,240 world war ii the mk ultra program 1273 00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:47,839 through the nazi uh prison camps and the 1274 00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:50,480 and joseph mengele and that whole group 1275 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,079 right yeah now so some of them can 1276 00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:56,640 and when you get into the projects where 1277 00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:59,280 um so let's just use the ibis project as 1278 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,079 a quick example okay 1279 00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,079 that's one where 1280 00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:06,400 it's a god type project where they were 1281 00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:12,630 a certain god into a body through the 1282 00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,040 genetics that were in the body 1283 00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,440 okay so some ss 1284 00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:19,359 can um 1285 00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:22,880 possess themselves with one god 1286 00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:26,319 but then there's one ss 1287 00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:28,240 that can do 1288 00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,160 any one of them that they want 1289 00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:35,119 tyler when you say that 1290 00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:36,640 yeah i was just going to say we need to 1291 00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:39,359 talk a little bit about egypt dna and a 1292 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,440 lot of things that were happening at 1293 00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,440 that time because you're also talking 1294 00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:45,440 about satanism being 1295 00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:48,640 or luciferianism or whatever because 1296 00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:52,480 they they breed into these children or 1297 00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,800 people that they want to have these 1298 00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,800 certain genetics and when you call it 1299 00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,800 the god genetics what do you 1300 00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:00,319 specifically mean do you mean a certain 1301 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:03,680 type of dna from alien races 1302 00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:08,870 in order to really 1303 00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:12,720 give the audience a 100 scientific term 1304 00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:15,280 you literally have to take 1305 00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:19,119 it down to a microscopic level but uh 1306 00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:20,960 it's 1307 00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:25,119 i don't know what the exact name of it 1308 00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:27,040 is i don't know okay 1309 00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,240 that's a lot of names and yes 1310 00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:32,640 in the public public arena there is no 1311 00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,920 name 1312 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:34,880 right 1313 00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,240 in the medical scientific community that 1314 00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,000 we live in right now there's no names 1315 00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:43,040 for this i think it actually hits upon a 1316 00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:46,240 more energetic electrical level 1317 00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:49,760 uh um the the best thing i can actually 1318 00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,240 really describe it is it's an angelic 1319 00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,800 class of dna structure and and i know 1320 00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,480 how it works 1321 00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,160 i can actually feel it when it happens 1322 00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:00,720 in my body 1323 00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:04,319 through the helixal coil of your dna 1324 00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:07,680 when you put a block and it doesn't 1325 00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:09,839 form a perfect coil 1326 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,520 and that and it one piece is taken out 1327 00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:15,440 that being can no longer do that with 1328 00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,960 that beam because 1329 00:51:21,910 --> 00:51:18,480 um 1330 00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:21,920 the energy doesn't go in a full circle 1331 00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:24,400 got it doesn't cycle properly it comes 1332 00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,680 to an end 1333 00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:27,119 through the dna 1334 00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:28,800 in um 1335 00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:31,520 the stargate tv shows 1336 00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:34,720 it took a person with specific dna to go 1337 00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,119 down to antarctica and sit in a chair to 1338 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,839 activate a stargate 1339 00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,839 and that's another thing that they do 1340 00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,839 that's what they do with me 1341 00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:46,079 and i can explain how that all works it 1342 00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:47,599 actually goes back to 1343 00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,800 adolf hitler in world war ii he um had 1344 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,880 sent out all of his best ss in the 1345 00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:54,640 middle of the war when his generals 1346 00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:57,599 advised him not to to go after 1347 00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:01,599 all the important relics of the past 1348 00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:02,480 so 1349 00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:04,079 now let me interrupt you for a second 1350 00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,440 because everybody's going to go oh 1351 00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:08,240 that's indiana jones but indiana jones 1352 00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,000 was taken off of this story because i 1353 00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,240 know that this story is true because 1354 00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,119 i've asked people in the cia whether 1355 00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:17,359 that happens so you go ahead to continue 1356 00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:18,880 on i just want people to know that 1357 00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:20,400 you're not making this up this is 1358 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,520 absolutely 1359 00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:23,119 a reality so 1360 00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:24,559 during the project 1361 00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:26,720 paper clip movement and the building of 1362 00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:29,599 underground tunnels all throughout the 1363 00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:32,480 50 40s 50s 60s 70s and 80s here on the 1364 00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,599 east coast and all the united states 1365 00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,680 corporations were formed 1366 00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,440 and corporations and different 1367 00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:41,520 businesses bought 1368 00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:42,960 um 1369 00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,000 which were important military sites that 1370 00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:49,119 contain stargates and other um 1371 00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:51,760 important uh 1372 00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:54,000 let's just say sites i don't know what 1373 00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,400 all the technologies would be but 1374 00:53:02,950 --> 00:52:58,800 they use these corporations which were 1375 00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,589 so therefore you have 1376 00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:07,760 the military secret society members and 1377 00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:10,000 corporations 1378 00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:12,640 all collaborating 1379 00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:15,520 and we find this all over 1380 00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:18,559 and that's what the deal is over here 1381 00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:21,040 and that's what um 1382 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:22,720 so what the queen came over here for 1383 00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,920 from england 1384 00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:25,920 to send all those troops here 1385 00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:27,680 was to in fact 1386 00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:36,230 the royal family knew 1387 00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:38,000 that one of the other stargates was over 1388 00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:39,200 here 1389 00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,880 and they wanted it 1390 00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:43,119 and they lost uh 1391 00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,640 their foothold 1392 00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:46,079 and that's what part of that war was 1393 00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,680 about there's many things about that war 1394 00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:49,680 but that's one thing that was part of 1395 00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:52,240 that okay what were you talking about 1396 00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:56,079 i'm sorry i'm confused 1776. oh that war 1397 00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:57,760 okay 1398 00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,720 revolution what are we talking about 1399 00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:01,760 okay 1400 00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:03,040 back in 1401 00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,880 that time 1402 00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:06,640 and you know what's even weirder about 1403 00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,079 this tyler 1404 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,559 just five months ago i was talking to a 1405 00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:12,640 friend in canada who had been doing a 1406 00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:15,119 whole bunch of research on the high 1407 00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:18,160 mason tree at the time in 1776 1408 00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:20,640 and there are many references to a 1409 00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,839 stargate or a star portal 1410 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:25,680 that they were or uh 1411 00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:28,240 they call it a god portal or something 1412 00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:30,079 that this person's going to write a book 1413 00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,400 about these masons and i'm like well 1414 00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,880 what is the star portal this god portal 1415 00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,480 what are you talking about he goes you 1416 00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:38,480 know from what i can tell it seems to me 1417 00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:40,000 that there must have been some kind of 1418 00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,160 portal to another dimension 1419 00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,000 here in america and he goes i can't 1420 00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:46,000 figure out where because i'm not finding 1421 00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:48,000 anything but i'm barely finding it but 1422 00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,599 it is referencing coming up about every 1423 00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,520 you know two or three volumes of 1424 00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,440 whatever he's getting his hands on he's 1425 00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,119 finding reference to this and they were 1426 00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:59,920 supposedly protecting it is this correct 1427 00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:01,520 do you know anything about the masons 1428 00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:04,950 yeah 1429 00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:07,119 well the masons the masons are very 1430 00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,240 important 1431 00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,319 they they've been infiltrated by so many 1432 00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,319 different groups that 1433 00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:14,480 that that the masons themselves struggle 1434 00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:16,640 to maintain their structure 1435 00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:19,119 yeah that's true as far as their their 1436 00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:21,040 secret part of their structure which is 1437 00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:24,240 the knowledge and all the elders 1438 00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,440 and 1439 00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,359 the there's a good side of the masons 1440 00:55:32,790 --> 00:55:29,680 the masons have had a bad name put out a 1441 00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,800 form because of some that were 1442 00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:34,559 you know not following 1443 00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,839 the original traditions too yeah um i 1444 00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,599 grew up in a 1445 00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,440 a masonic family and i'm considered a 1446 00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:43,599 seventh generation mason but i'm not a 1447 00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,880 mason 1448 00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:46,480 but i've been to the halls and i've 1449 00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:49,599 spoken to a great many masons 1450 00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,760 and in fact the masons have actually 1451 00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,920 helped me when uh 1452 00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:55,920 when no one else would so 1453 00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,079 you know yeah i think people 1454 00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,160 in fact what needs to happen is more 1455 00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:02,000 good people need to go into the masons 1456 00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,230 i totally agree with you tyler i have a 1457 00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:12,240 lot of good friends that are older that 1458 00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,760 have been in the masons for years 1459 00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:15,440 they've done nothing but good works i 1460 00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:17,200 know them personally i've been at their 1461 00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:20,480 dinner tables these are great people and 1462 00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:23,359 um if there is degrees above 33rd they 1463 00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:25,359 don't even know about it so you know it 1464 00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,119 just bothers me when people blanket 1465 00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:29,200 statement that all masons are bad you 1466 00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:31,040 know this whole thing 1467 00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,520 so anyhow well your life is just turning 1468 00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,680 out to be fascinating and i gotta say 1469 00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:37,440 i'm so happy you've been on the show but 1470 00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:39,440 do you have any last words for us before 1471 00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:41,280 we hit the break 1472 00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,520 okay go on to our next guest i've been 1473 00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:45,680 so entrenched with my life and raises in 1474 00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:48,079 my family that i've had to take a break 1475 00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:50,000 and push a lot of people away and i 1476 00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,720 apologize to everyone i did 1477 00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:54,720 because i 1478 00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,000 i had to focus on some other things and 1479 00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:00,319 perfecting a few shielding techniques 1480 00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:03,359 and i had a number of issues going on 1481 00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,440 but what i need to do now is i need to 1482 00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:08,640 get louder i need to actually reach out 1483 00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:10,000 to the 1484 00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:11,359 to some friends in the hollywood 1485 00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,720 community 1486 00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,799 because there's a lot of there's a lot 1487 00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:16,400 of people in the hollywood community 1488 00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:17,920 that need a lot of help 1489 00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,520 yeah tell me about it i know exactly 1490 00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,599 there's been a whole long line of 1491 00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:25,520 uh deaths lately 1492 00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:28,799 and uh i think that uh 1493 00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:31,920 i think that that's not gonna stop 1494 00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:32,799 so 1495 00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:35,599 yeah yeah i agree well tyler thank you 1496 00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:37,440 so much sweetie i really appreciate it i 1497 00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,880 just loved having you on the show 1498 00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,480 tonight and what i'm gonna do is i'm 1499 00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:42,720 gonna have you on my other show for a 1500 00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,960 full two hours coming up pretty soon can 1501 00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,799 you do that for me 1502 00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,000 i sure can 1503 00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:50,240 great that's just great i've got to move 1504 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,000 on to the next guest we're to take our 1505 00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:54,400 break folks so tyler clark you're gonna 1506 00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,160 be hearing a lot more about tyler 1507 00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:57,920 because i'm gonna help him get back out 1508 00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,160 there and get involved with people i'll 1509 00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:01,920 do the best i can to help him he was 1510 00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:04,720 there helping me save max the first time 1511 00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,880 so you know we we didn't get get to him 1512 00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,040 the second time but you know hopefully 1513 00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:10,880 we can do things in the future to keep 1514 00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:12,400 anybody else from 1515 00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,000 dying in the community if we have 1516 00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:16,400 anything to say about it right tyler no 1517 00:58:20,829 --> 00:58:19,920 we we had we've all had good intentions 1518 00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:20,839 and 1519 00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:24,400 uh i'm i just kind of hope over time 1520 00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:26,880 that everything comes you know is 1521 00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,160 revealed 1522 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:31,040 yeah me too absolutely okay sweetheart 1523 00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,640 i'll talk to you really soon have a 1524 00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,799 great night and folks we're gonna take a 1525 00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,640 break and then we'll get over to 1526 00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:39,119 plutonius and uh let's just see if he's 1527 00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:41,200 there he's getting ready okay folks 1528 00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:46,950 welcome back everyone to the california 1529 00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:49,280 mufon radio show i'm your host lauren 1530 00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:51,680 fenton and you know what guys i think 1531 00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:53,839 plutona's forgot to 1532 00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:56,400 come i think he forgot about the show 1533 00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,440 tonight 1534 00:59:02,470 --> 00:58:59,680 oh well i'm just going to i'm going to 1535 00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:02,480 go on without him and i just uh oh 1536 00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:05,599 robert stanley may be joining us um can 1537 00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:11,680 you join us live on air right now let's 1538 00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:13,760 see what he says 1539 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:16,240 uh let's see what he has to say i i just 1540 00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,280 started you know instead of butt dialing 1541 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:21,119 i'm skype dialing i'm kind of going 1542 00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:23,520 around uh asking my friends that i see 1543 00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:25,760 that are awake and you know around on 1544 00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:29,520 skype oh cool he said yes um mj 1545 00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:33,520 so let me get you his um uh 1546 00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:35,599 his profile name i haven't talked to 1547 00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:38,160 robert for some time 1548 00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:41,760 so let me get that for you 1549 00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:44,799 hello oh there we are um 1550 00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:47,839 did inception radio network called mj 1551 00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:53,910 uh 1552 01:00:00,789 --> 00:59:59,349 so i'll make sure i'm still on it that i 1553 01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,799 didn't answer 1554 01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:02,559 robert 1555 01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:04,960 what's happening 1556 01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,160 sorry guys 1557 01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:08,640 oh adding him now okay god i'm looking 1558 01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,440 at the wrong thing so okay robert hi 1559 01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:13,599 it's so good to talk to you my guest uh 1560 01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:16,240 forgot about the show tonight oh that's 1561 01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:17,200 secrets 1562 01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:19,359 oh god it's so crazy 1563 01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:22,240 uh oh he's uh oh you hear you guys andy 1564 01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:24,160 beshago says no i'm appearing on 1565 01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:26,799 midnight in the desert in 24 miser with 1566 01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:29,680 heather wade okay i gotta say thanks 1567 01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:32,319 thanks to andy 1568 01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,480 i i got robert stanley so we're good hey 1569 01:00:40,829 --> 01:00:39,040 robert i'm so glad to talk to you hey 1570 01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:40,839 lauren yeah it's been a while hope you 1571 01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,920 do yes 1572 01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:43,680 yeah i just thought i did 1573 01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:45,040 i was just telling everybody i'm doing 1574 01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,200 the comparative butt dialing but in 1575 01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:48,960 skype 1576 01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:49,839 god 1577 01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:51,760 i'm just looking around going what time 1578 01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,920 is it there by the way i was going to do 1579 01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:55,440 i didn't bother 1580 01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:56,559 it's noon 1581 01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:00,720 you've had a cup of coffee you're good 1582 01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:03,760 to go yeah i'm up at 5 30 these days to 1583 01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:06,319 help take care of my elderly dog 1584 01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:07,280 oh 1585 01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:09,440 is how's he doing 1586 01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,440 well he's 16 and a half but he's doing 1587 01:01:14,789 --> 01:01:13,119 pretty well he just said hi you've 1588 01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:14,799 reached the high fashion hotline hi 1589 01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,640 spiced apple cider is back and so are 1590 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:18,160 the fall trends my family needs new 1591 01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:19,920 clothes to spice up our fall wardrobe 1592 01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:21,680 spice up their style with new jeans from 1593 01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:24,160 old navy old navy yep right now all 1594 01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:25,839 jeans from distress to stretch are on 1595 01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:27,680 sale from fifteen dollars for adults ten 1596 01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,599 dollars for kids plus get up to fifty 1597 01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:31,680 percent off store wide all jeans on sale 1598 01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:33,520 and up to fifty percent off store wide 1599 01:01:36,789 --> 01:01:35,040 that's right all your family's favorite 1600 01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:36,799 jeans are on sale now at old navy and 1601 01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:37,680 old 1602 01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:41,920 navy valid 914-920 excludes in-store 1603 01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,359 clearance so take two kinds of 1604 01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,359 medication now for his heart and lungs 1605 01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:47,839 but uh 1606 01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:50,559 oh that's wonderful now is it okay if we 1607 01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:52,559 tell people where you're living 1608 01:01:54,790 --> 01:01:53,760 whoa 1609 01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,800 yes 1610 01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:56,880 [Laughter] 1611 01:02:00,309 --> 01:01:58,480 just as soon as you said that neighbors 1612 01:02:02,549 --> 01:02:00,319 started drilling upstairs 1613 01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:02,559 oh dear yeah that's right yes i'm in 1614 01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:03,760 hong kong 1615 01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:07,200 okay wonderful see folks i have friends 1616 01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,640 they're all over the place i got another 1617 01:02:13,109 --> 01:02:10,559 friend in south korea and another guy 1618 01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:13,119 that i was calling in canada and i 1619 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:14,640 thought boy you know i wonder what time 1620 01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:16,000 it is for everybody i really shouldn't 1621 01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:18,160 be doing this but hey i'm so glad you're 1622 01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:20,559 here and i just had uh 1623 01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:22,880 tyler clark on and he was talking about 1624 01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:25,599 super soldiers and mind control and my 1625 01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:28,000 super soldier conferences that we were 1626 01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,440 at together and uh do you know about max 1627 01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:34,079 spears's death do you ever follow that 1628 01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:35,920 do you know sure 1629 01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:39,440 yeah i mean i haven't heard anything new 1630 01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,200 about it at least it hasn't been 1631 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:43,119 announced publicly i mean it was a huge 1632 01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:46,240 deal when it happened right right 1633 01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:48,799 well tyler and i told for the first time 1634 01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:51,920 i think on air ever about the fact that 1635 01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,160 in 2012 when i put on the very first 1636 01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:56,240 super soldier conference 1637 01:03:02,789 --> 01:03:00,319 uh max uh got a hold of a mass quantity 1638 01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,799 of uh drugs 1639 01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:03,920 uh he 1640 01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:06,960 he it's a long story but all i can tell 1641 01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,359 you is that uh there's been a lot of 1642 01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:11,680 stories out there about how james rink 1643 01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:13,440 saved him at the super soldier 1644 01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,960 conference and the reality was um i had 1645 01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:19,039 gone to the house that evening 1646 01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,400 uh it was it was a one-day uh conference 1647 01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:23,920 my first one was only one day on a 1648 01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:26,400 saturday and this was saturday night 1649 01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:28,559 after the conference was over 1650 01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:31,920 and um i went to the house i put them 1651 01:03:36,069 --> 01:03:34,240 all up in a big mansion and it had a 1652 01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:36,079 swimming pool the whole bit i mean this 1653 01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:39,119 place was amazing it was on airbnb of 1654 01:03:43,750 --> 01:03:41,119 all places and i got a great deal on i 1655 01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:43,760 couldn't believe it it slept 14 people 1656 01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:46,079 anyhow long story short i get to the 1657 01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:47,680 house and we're all gonna you know have 1658 01:03:52,710 --> 01:03:49,359 dinner or a night cap or something 1659 01:03:55,349 --> 01:03:52,720 together and max comes into the room and 1660 01:03:57,910 --> 01:03:55,359 he is just a mess he's slurring and 1661 01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:57,920 wobbly and he sits on the couch and then 1662 01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,160 he lays his head down in my lap and i'm 1663 01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:02,079 kind of stroking his hair and talking to 1664 01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:04,559 him and then i realized he's really out 1665 01:04:07,270 --> 01:04:05,680 of it i thought he was just a little 1666 01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:07,280 drunk or something was wrong with him 1667 01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,599 right and he's you know telling me i 1668 01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,760 love you and he's like really out of it 1669 01:04:14,710 --> 01:04:13,839 i'm thinking how much did he drink you 1670 01:04:17,829 --> 01:04:14,720 know 1671 01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:17,839 and so i put my hand on his chest and 1672 01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:20,480 and robert i realized he was only 1673 01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:23,119 breathing like every 30 seconds i mean 1674 01:04:28,870 --> 01:04:26,720 it was like so shallow and so infrequent 1675 01:04:31,349 --> 01:04:28,880 that i was surprised he was alive and i 1676 01:04:34,150 --> 01:04:31,359 was like oh my god he's taken something 1677 01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:34,160 so i i grabbed i called for tyler who 1678 01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,760 was just on the show tonight and i said 1679 01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:37,200 we're going to the hospital we're going 1680 01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:39,440 right now and they help me get him to 1681 01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:41,920 the car because he was being competitive 1682 01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:43,760 and didn't want to go and he could 1683 01:04:48,390 --> 01:04:46,720 barely walk at that point and i got him 1684 01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:48,400 in the car took him to the hospital and 1685 01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:50,400 he passed out in the car 1686 01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:52,880 and then they helped the the er people 1687 01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:55,440 help me get him into the er 1688 01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,000 and it got even weirder after that and 1689 01:05:01,990 --> 01:05:00,000 here's something i i didn't talk about 1690 01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:02,000 when tyler was on the air but you might 1691 01:05:06,549 --> 01:05:04,079 be interested in hearing this 1692 01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:06,559 as i'm in the hospital with him and we 1693 01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:07,920 go through this whole thing and the 1694 01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:09,520 doctors are they were thinking about 1695 01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:12,160 throwing them in jail i mean or you know 1696 01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:13,680 rehab or i don't know what they were 1697 01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:15,359 going to do to him but they were talking 1698 01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:18,480 about admitting him to a a rehab place 1699 01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:21,280 and i think off even maybe even prison 1700 01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:24,160 for you know for stealing the pills i 1701 01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:25,440 don't know how that came up in the 1702 01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:27,920 conversation long story short talked him 1703 01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:30,400 out of everything and i'm stuck at the 1704 01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:32,640 hospital with him until he can actually 1705 01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:35,359 urinate because he had taken so many of 1706 01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:38,160 these pills that oh he took vicodin 1707 01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:39,599 that's what it was he took so many 1708 01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:42,079 vicodin that they were worried he had 1709 01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:44,480 poisoned his kidneys or his liver and he 1710 01:05:47,190 --> 01:05:46,160 was not going to be able he wasn't going 1711 01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:47,200 to live 1712 01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:49,520 and they weren't as worried about his 1713 01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:51,520 the drugs in it you know the hydrocodone 1714 01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:54,000 as they were the tylenol apparently 1715 01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:57,520 so um i had to stay there until he could 1716 01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:59,839 you know do do that thing by himself and 1717 01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:01,280 get his kidneys working because they 1718 01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:03,280 thought they were shutting down 1719 01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:05,280 anyhow so i'm stuck at the hospital with 1720 01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:07,599 him robert and i'm sitting there and i'm 1721 01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:09,920 half asleep and at one 1722 01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:12,079 point i you know i kept looking up to 1723 01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:14,319 see how he was doing every 10 minutes or 1724 01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:16,640 so as i was kind of sleeping 1725 01:06:21,109 --> 01:06:18,640 and at one point i looked up it was 1726 01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:21,119 about four o'clock in the morning and i 1727 01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:23,680 glanced over he was on my left side i 1728 01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:25,760 was sitting in a chair by the emergency 1729 01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:26,799 bed 1730 01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:30,079 and i looked over to the left and just 1731 01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:32,640 as i started to wake up and look over to 1732 01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:35,520 the left i see a black 1733 01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:38,400 shadow figure 1734 01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:41,200 around him his upper body i couldn't see 1735 01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:43,839 below the the bed of course 1736 01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:47,200 but i'm looking at this thing and 1737 01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:49,760 it looks to me like it's got hands 1738 01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:52,160 coming out of it and it looks like it's 1739 01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:54,480 going around the blackness is going 1740 01:07:00,069 --> 01:06:56,400 around his head 1741 01:07:02,789 --> 01:07:00,079 and i got i kind of jumped i startled 1742 01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:02,799 when i saw this and it dissipated it was 1743 01:07:06,309 --> 01:07:04,000 gone 1744 01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,319 so i thought i was just you know 1745 01:07:09,670 --> 01:07:07,920 dreaming i didn't you know i didn't 1746 01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:09,680 think too much of it 1747 01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:12,799 but later i talked to another woman 1748 01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:15,280 who's very much a big player in the 1749 01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:16,400 community 1750 01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:18,240 and she had said 1751 01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:21,200 that at some point 1752 01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:24,960 she had had one of these shadow figures 1753 01:07:29,829 --> 01:07:27,280 trying to choke her out 1754 01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:29,839 in her bed while she was sleeping 1755 01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:30,640 so 1756 01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:33,599 i was putting two and two together and 1757 01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:36,079 then i started thinking about 1758 01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,240 what you had talked about with you know 1759 01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:41,280 all the covert stuff that's going on and 1760 01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:44,160 camellio by robert guffey where our 1761 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:46,400 military has you know invisibility 1762 01:07:50,950 --> 01:07:48,160 cloaks and then 1763 01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:50,960 i really got going on this whole dark 1764 01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:52,559 shadow figure that's trying to kill 1765 01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:54,240 people um 1766 01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:57,200 through um the 1767 01:08:02,789 --> 01:07:59,760 the remote viewing community and the 1768 01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:02,799 psyops community because i found out 1769 01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:05,359 they were using psychics to develop 1770 01:08:10,309 --> 01:08:07,839 these kind of astral dark beans that 1771 01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,319 could go to people in person and 1772 01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:12,160 strangle them kill them give them heart 1773 01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:15,200 attacks do whatever and that this is a 1774 01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:17,600 real deal and they're doing this 1775 01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:18,799 yes 1776 01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:21,040 in tibet the monks 1777 01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:22,239 do this 1778 01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,400 they're known to have done this 1779 01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:26,400 whenever they feel that they're under 1780 01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:28,080 they need to protect themselves and they 1781 01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:29,920 create an energy being or a thought form 1782 01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:32,960 like that called the toolpaw t-u-l-p-a 1783 01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,960 right right 1784 01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,480 exactly 1785 01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:38,719 so my question and the reason i'm 1786 01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:41,120 bringing this all up to you is besides 1787 01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:42,799 knowing about this have you ever 1788 01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:44,640 experienced anything like this i know 1789 01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,440 you saw a shadow kind of 1790 01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,600 bug or something the very first time you 1791 01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:51,520 were kind of awakening 1792 01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:54,080 you said you saw these little creatures 1793 01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:55,040 um 1794 01:08:58,870 --> 01:08:56,960 were they kind of like that do you think 1795 01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:58,880 they're other dimensional what do you 1796 01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:00,319 think they are 1797 01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:03,359 yeah um well you can see pictures of 1798 01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:06,400 what something similar on my website uh 1799 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:08,400 in the article section just click uh 1800 01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:10,239 scroll down to meet our covert 1801 01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:11,520 controllers 1802 01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:13,199 the archons and there's there's 1803 01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:15,199 photographs there um 1804 01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:17,120 taken with infrared 1805 01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:18,960 some of the photos are from nasa taken 1806 01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:22,080 in space and they look like amoeba 1807 01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:24,319 but they there's obviously entities that 1808 01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:25,839 are non-physical that can do the same 1809 01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:28,960 thing they're parasitic or predatory 1810 01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:30,799 and a lot of a lot of people have 1811 01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:33,600 described them very similar manner and 1812 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:35,839 obviously the same type of 1813 01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,120 behavior 1814 01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,520 so um 1815 01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:41,520 yeah it's too bad i'm not sure why max 1816 01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,080 was targeted like that but a lot of 1817 01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:46,319 times people it's i mean i know the 1818 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:47,839 catholic church would consider that 1819 01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:49,120 possession 1820 01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:51,199 right right and they're obviously not 1821 01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:52,480 very 1822 01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:55,120 whatever they're doing it isn't working 1823 01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:56,719 very well 1824 01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:58,480 no it's not is it 1825 01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:00,080 you know every once in a while they're 1826 01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:02,159 able to break through people well you 1827 01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:04,080 know what we haven't done robert is i 1828 01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,679 haven't even told anybody who you are 1829 01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:06,960 where you're from and what you're doing 1830 01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,640 we should probably do that first real 1831 01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,640 quick how's that then i'm gonna get into 1832 01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:12,800 some good stuff juicy stuff with you 1833 01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:14,640 yeah it's cool i mean lorien i guess you 1834 01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:17,120 didn't know i'm world famous now 1835 01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:22,229 yeah thanks to youtube well thanks to 1836 01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:24,640 youtube um some of my 1837 01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:27,040 some of my interviews video interviews 1838 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:30,080 have gone a bit viral i mean over 300 1839 01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:31,280 views and 1840 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:34,320 on one particular thing so it's it's 1841 01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:36,000 yeah i'm starting to get a reputation 1842 01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:37,760 not that i really want that it's just 1843 01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:39,840 you know for whatever reason that's 1844 01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:41,600 a lot of people are 1845 01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:43,360 know who i am these days 1846 01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:45,440 but yeah you can tell you can tell tell 1847 01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:47,840 this audience well robert stanley has 1848 01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:50,560 unicus magazine and robert spell it for 1849 01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:52,800 them would you sure it's yeah it's 1850 01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:55,600 spelled u n i c u s 1851 01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:02,470 and he has the most amazing stories 1852 01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:05,920 articles he's published other people wes 1853 01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:07,120 penray 1854 01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:09,760 is also one of the people that you uh 1855 01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:11,600 put up on your website correctly aren't 1856 01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:13,920 you kind of his archivist or his person 1857 01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:15,760 that well 1858 01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:17,760 yeah we've collaborated on some things i 1859 01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:19,520 think we found some common ground i'm 1860 01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:21,760 also featuring in my library which is 1861 01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:23,120 free 1862 01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,920 uh 1863 01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:30,080 written by a guy named john pinella and 1864 01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:32,000 that that series is it's called the 1865 01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,560 divine secret garden and that's very 1866 01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:35,840 interesting 1867 01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:38,159 uh some people are finding it helpful i 1868 01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:40,480 did so that's that's also up there now 1869 01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,920 what did it do for you in a nutshell 1870 01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:45,920 well it helped me to understand the 1871 01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,440 difference between and uh 1872 01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:51,600 well it was kind of shocking i i didn't 1873 01:11:55,030 --> 01:11:53,120 want to i really didn't want to believe 1874 01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:55,040 this but apparently some of the people 1875 01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:56,719 here that we think are human are 1876 01:12:01,590 --> 01:11:59,120 actually part of the simulation 1877 01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:01,600 they are programs they're not really 1878 01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:03,440 connected to a soul 1879 01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:05,440 and that was kind of a shocker but i 1880 01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:07,040 guess it really helped put things in the 1881 01:12:09,669 --> 01:12:08,800 proper context so 1882 01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:09,679 um 1883 01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:10,960 that 1884 01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:15,360 just you just opened up like the biggest 1885 01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:18,000 can of worms in my brain that i've ever 1886 01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:21,120 encroached upon but okay so let me ask 1887 01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:23,199 you something if they are part of the 1888 01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,800 matrix and they're part like a 1889 01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:26,159 holographic 1890 01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:27,760 you know whatever 1891 01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:28,719 yeah 1892 01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:31,520 they're still organic material they're 1893 01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:33,920 still a human body right no no they're 1894 01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:37,199 not oh my god everything you know 1895 01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:39,840 everything in the matrix is digital 1896 01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,199 everything in it 1897 01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,600 i mean see this is the thing i 1898 01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:45,600 i okay so here's the deal if you go to 1899 01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:47,280 my website the first thing you're going 1900 01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:49,520 to see is a new article called the 1901 01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:51,440 matrix exit 1902 01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:53,199 ah so hold on 1903 01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,480 okay 1904 01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:56,239 yeah my neighbors as soon as i said that 1905 01:13:03,990 --> 01:12:58,960 they started drilling anyway um 1906 01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:06,709 what what we need to understand about 1907 01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:07,760 uh 1908 01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:09,920 oh robert by the way the the drilling's 1909 01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:12,080 not very loud for us okay good good 1910 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:16,550 it's right over my head and i wasn't 1911 01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,280 sure if you were hearing it um okay so 1912 01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:21,440 anyway like i said there's a new article 1913 01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:24,080 right on the front page of the website 1914 01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:25,679 and if you click on that called the 1915 01:13:29,830 --> 01:13:28,000 matrix exit 1916 01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:29,840 it'll give you a summary of what i've 1917 01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:32,560 learned in the last few months and i 1918 01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:34,080 mean there's there's some very 1919 01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:35,600 interesting 1920 01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:38,960 graphic examples and other articles and 1921 01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:41,199 animation and stuff that'll make it 1922 01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:42,719 quite clear 1923 01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:44,640 what i'm trying to say to you in a 1924 01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:46,880 nutshell is that 1925 01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:49,120 everything in the matrix is a simulation 1926 01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:50,880 it's based on something real but it 1927 01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:52,080 isn't 1928 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:54,480 so the only way okay so so how in the 1929 01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:56,400 world does this relate to us well some 1930 01:13:59,669 --> 01:13:58,239 of us are souls 1931 01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:59,679 not all of the people you see running 1932 01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:01,520 around here are 1933 01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:03,440 connected to a soul 1934 01:14:06,550 --> 01:14:05,120 so it's like it's like this if you're in 1935 01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:06,560 a video game 1936 01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:09,440 um 1937 01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:12,880 it seems real but you know it's not 1938 01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:15,440 right your avatar the avatar that you're 1939 01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:17,360 controlling in a video game 1940 01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:18,719 is 1941 01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:20,239 um 1942 01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:23,199 equivalent to the body that you consider 1943 01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:26,080 to be you right here in the matrix 1944 01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:27,120 got it 1945 01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:28,400 all right so 1946 01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:30,560 this is the problem though if when we've 1947 01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:33,360 been playing the game too long 1948 01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:35,920 that our souls basically forget 1949 01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:37,920 who they are and how they got here and 1950 01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:39,280 more importantly 1951 01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:42,640 how to leave at some point so they 1952 01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:44,480 they'll be here for a lifetime after 1953 01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:47,120 lifetime after lifetime and that is be 1954 01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:54,070 okay and detrimental in what way is it 1955 01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:55,679 because 1956 01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:56,560 well 1957 01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:58,480 think about it this way lauren yeah if 1958 01:15:02,470 --> 01:15:00,159 somebody is playing you know that we 1959 01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:02,480 know this is for a fact if someone is 1960 01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:04,159 playing sitting 1961 01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:04,960 in 1962 01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:12,960 and hours and hours on end it starts to 1963 01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:14,400 affect their life 1964 01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:15,600 their health 1965 01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:18,320 their thought process is all affected 1966 01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:19,679 negatively 1967 01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,840 so the same is true for a soul if if 1968 01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:23,520 they have been 1969 01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:25,199 connected to the matrix for too long and 1970 01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:27,520 they start to believe that it's real 1971 01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:30,480 right there's a there's a negative 1972 01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:33,199 effect that is that follows from that 1973 01:15:37,510 --> 01:15:34,800 in other words they become asleep they 1974 01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:37,520 forget who they really are oh absolutely 1975 01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:39,600 you know i've always said this and i 1976 01:15:42,709 --> 01:15:40,560 think 1977 01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:42,719 the first thing that goes for people 1978 01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:44,800 that have been here too long and have 1979 01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:47,280 forgotten that they have a counterpart 1980 01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:50,159 out there in the in the other dimensions 1981 01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:52,400 that may or not be in other dimensions i 1982 01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:54,640 don't know but i can tell you this 1983 01:15:59,590 --> 01:15:57,760 i know that i am not just this lorian 1984 01:16:01,990 --> 01:15:59,600 sitting here in the chair doing my radio 1985 01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:02,000 show you know i've been other places i 1986 01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:04,960 know that this place is seriously hell 1987 01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:07,920 and uh i know that it is what you make 1988 01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:09,920 it and but i also know that i've got to 1989 01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:12,320 get the heck out of dodge you know my 1990 01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,800 whole gig is this is the last time i'm 1991 01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:16,800 coming here it's my mantra every morning 1992 01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:18,880 i get up and i say okay just remember 1993 01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:20,880 this last time yeah you're stationed 1994 01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:22,560 here you're not going to be here next 1995 01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:25,120 time so don't worry about it you know 1996 01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,840 and uh you know i'm very much aware that 1997 01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:29,120 this is not 1998 01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:31,120 everything okay 1999 01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:32,960 and then i get around the people that 2000 01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:35,040 don't even understand that there is 2001 01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:36,800 something else 2002 01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:39,199 and i realize that they've lost touch 2003 01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:42,239 with their soul and and what you're 2004 01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:43,920 saying makes a lot of sense it's like 2005 01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:45,520 they've got a disease they don't have 2006 01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,400 empathy anymore they can't think uh 2007 01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:50,719 clearly they don't they're they're so 2008 01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:53,120 self-absorbed they don't even understand 2009 01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:54,800 there's people right next to them in 2010 01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:57,840 line at a grocery store you know they 2011 01:17:01,590 --> 01:17:00,080 they cut in line in front of you they do 2012 01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:01,600 weird things and then you're looking at 2013 01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:03,120 them and they don't understand that 2014 01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:05,520 you're like i'm just going to use 2015 01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:08,000 another prime example of another just so 2016 01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:10,159 simple thing that makes me insane 2017 01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:12,239 on this planet is i'm at the orchard 2018 01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:14,719 supply hardware buying some stuff i get 2019 01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:16,640 in line the lady opens up the cash 2020 01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:20,480 register and she says to me i'm not the 2021 01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:22,560 the next person in line she says to me 2022 01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:25,120 come on over here and i said no there's 2023 01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:27,040 two people in front of me let's ask the 2024 01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:30,080 lady in front of the the next lady if 2025 01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:31,840 she would like to come over to your line 2026 01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:34,239 i mean this is how unaware people are 2027 01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:35,120 you know 2028 01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:40,159 if it's go ahead i'm i go crazy over 2029 01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:42,159 this stuff so there's something that you 2030 01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:43,760 should in order to clarify what you're 2031 01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:44,960 saying there 2032 01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:47,440 some of the people who are connected to 2033 01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:49,679 the so to a soul outside the matrix 2034 01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:51,520 those so if those souls are so deeply 2035 01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:54,480 asleep then yeah they tend to act badly 2036 01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:55,920 behave badly 2037 01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:56,719 yeah 2038 01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:58,400 they've forgotten but then there's the 2039 01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:00,880 other extreme of that which is that some 2040 01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:02,480 of the as i said before some of the 2041 01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:03,440 people 2042 01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:05,360 are not connected to a soul they're just 2043 01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:06,960 part of the matrix 2044 01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:09,440 their programs and there's increasingly 2045 01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:11,679 there's been more and more of them 2046 01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,600 there aren't more souls coming here and 2047 01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:15,120 the reason they're doing that is so that 2048 01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:17,040 they will they can keep more of us 2049 01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:19,280 distracted so that we'll stay here the 2050 01:18:22,229 --> 01:18:20,800 reason being 2051 01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:22,239 from my understanding at this point is 2052 01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:24,880 that once all the souls have left the 2053 01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:26,719 matrix it will end 2054 01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:28,560 it no longer serves any purpose and it 2055 01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:30,080 will end 2056 01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:30,960 so 2057 01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:35,120 entities that that started it and are 2058 01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:37,120 running it and feel like that's their 2059 01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:39,120 whole reason for being which is kind of 2060 01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:40,560 idiotic but 2061 01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:43,280 um it it's like it's sort of like having 2062 01:18:45,510 --> 01:18:44,880 an amusement park right 2063 01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:45,520 yeah 2064 01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:47,440 if nobody went to disneyland they'd at 2065 01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:48,960 some point it would just deteriorate 2066 01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:51,840 into nothing it would and nobody would 2067 01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:53,199 i mean why would you go to work there 2068 01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:54,719 because there isn't anybody going to the 2069 01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:55,679 park 2070 01:19:00,390 --> 01:18:56,480 right 2071 01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:00,400 that's uh and you know the other thing 2072 01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:02,080 is they know that more and more of us 2073 01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:03,920 are waking up and this is why they're 2074 01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:06,000 acting increasingly desperate but the 2075 01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:08,080 unintended consequences that is it 2076 01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:10,480 actually wakes more souls up when they 2077 01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:12,000 do that 2078 01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:14,960 you know i was i was forced not forced i 2079 01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:17,600 woke up early i mean this next round go 2080 01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:19,360 around a lot of people are you know in 2081 01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:20,880 the next few years are going to wake up 2082 01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:23,040 and leave but 2083 01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:25,040 i mean i was you know 2084 01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:27,840 the encounters that i had starting in 2085 01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:37,669 woke me up i didn't really have a choice 2086 01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:39,600 about it i mean i kind of wanted to go 2087 01:19:44,149 --> 01:19:42,880 back to sleep part of me really did but 2088 01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:44,159 there was 2089 01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:46,640 certain factors that lined up in a way 2090 01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:48,000 that there's just i didn't have the 2091 01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:50,800 luxury of doing that i couldn't go back 2092 01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:53,120 i couldn't hit the snooze alarm so 2093 01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:54,159 um 2094 01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:55,600 yeah then i had to deal with the 2095 01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,080 implications of being awake 2096 01:20:00,950 --> 01:20:00,000 and that's that's how i got to this 2097 01:20:02,950 --> 01:20:00,960 point 2098 01:20:04,630 --> 01:20:02,960 in my research and 2099 01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:04,640 i'm pretty much done i i mean i've 2100 01:20:09,510 --> 01:20:07,199 answered all the questions that i was 2101 01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:09,520 you know seeking you know and that's why 2102 01:20:13,590 --> 01:20:11,840 tonight when i i typed to you because i 2103 01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:13,600 i got that information from you the 2104 01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:15,120 other day which i haven't had a chance 2105 01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:17,040 to read yet i've been dying to get to it 2106 01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:20,239 um okay but uh i i saw that you were 2107 01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:22,400 active on skype and i thought you know 2108 01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:24,000 what robert told me he doesn't want to 2109 01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:26,159 do any more stuff 2110 01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:27,840 but maybe he'll come on the show for an 2111 01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:29,520 hour we could just gab like we do on the 2112 01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:31,920 telephone you know yeah yeah thank you 2113 01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:34,480 yeah so um you know it's very 2114 01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:36,239 interesting you bring this up tonight 2115 01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:38,880 because i i kind of been having this 2116 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:41,280 weird thought lately that i'm wondering 2117 01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:44,560 if people are organic just like suits 2118 01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:46,239 like you know i was thinking about the 2119 01:20:50,630 --> 01:20:48,719 old dan burrish uh episode i don't know 2120 01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:50,640 if you followed that whole thing 2121 01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:53,760 and read it intently but i i followed 2122 01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:55,440 everything that came out about dan 2123 01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:57,440 bursch i read every article i watched 2124 01:21:01,830 --> 01:20:59,520 every interview i did everything i could 2125 01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:01,840 to try to understand this man because i 2126 01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:03,920 thought he was pretty extraordinary and 2127 01:21:08,630 --> 01:21:05,920 if the story was true in any way shape 2128 01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:08,640 or form he had done something quite 2129 01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:11,360 remarkable by pushing that alien entity 2130 01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:14,000 back into a um 2131 01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:17,120 a tunnel and oh mj i can skip the break 2132 01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:20,159 you're so sweet thank you oh that's so 2133 01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:22,400 nice i'm i'm not helping the economy 2134 01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:24,960 tonight here at inception radio network 2135 01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:26,800 but i i'm gonna skip the break if it's 2136 01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:29,360 okay with you robert and so we can talk 2137 01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,679 longer sure so um yeah so anyhow uh what 2138 01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:35,520 i was saying uh what was i saying i was 2139 01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:38,400 talking about oh yeah dan burrish and he 2140 01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:40,480 pushed that alien back through the 2141 01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:43,840 portal back to his world okay 2142 01:21:48,149 --> 01:21:46,159 and uh the one thing he did say though 2143 01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:48,159 that i thought was extraordinary and 2144 01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:49,920 that no one really picked up on and 2145 01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:51,760 thought anything about 2146 01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:53,920 was the fact that he said there were 2147 01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:56,400 some evil entities that came into our 2148 01:22:02,629 --> 01:21:59,440 world and they would take over and 2149 01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:02,639 animate dead human bodies 2150 01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:05,120 and i thought that was really weird and 2151 01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:06,000 and 2152 01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:08,719 but he was adamant about this he said it 2153 01:22:13,430 --> 01:22:11,120 many times he was not joking he told 2154 01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:13,440 about the day he and his girlfriend were 2155 01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:16,800 at their house and this dead animated 2156 01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:19,840 thing came and went after her 2157 01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:21,199 and 2158 01:22:27,910 --> 01:22:25,760 horrible but i got to thinking it's got 2159 01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:27,920 to be true you know why why would you 2160 01:22:31,669 --> 01:22:29,920 make up something like that when you 2161 01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:31,679 already got enough trouble with people 2162 01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,320 believing your alien story right sure 2163 01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:36,719 sure sure yeah i know i know 2164 01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:38,560 he's an interesting character um i did 2165 01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:40,000 interview him one time 2166 01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:41,360 but i you know here's the thing the 2167 01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:43,920 matrix is set up so in such manner that 2168 01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:46,480 it's it's challenging us is designed to 2169 01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:48,320 confuse and control us 2170 01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:49,520 the 2171 01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:52,960 good and evil 2172 01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:55,760 mixing so in that regard uh truth is 2173 01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:57,600 mixed with lies 2174 01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:59,600 and so it's very difficult to discern 2175 01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:02,239 which is which and so and also because 2176 01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:04,560 things are taken out of context see this 2177 01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:06,159 is the thing i no longer believe the 2178 01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:08,320 matrix is real so that's the first step 2179 01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,400 preparation for me to leave 2180 01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,080 uh there's no way that they can distract 2181 01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:14,239 me any further and keep me here 2182 01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:16,400 unless i want to stay 2183 01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:18,239 see that was the thing about the movie 2184 01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:20,800 that was very instructive it was about 2185 01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:22,960 about the power of belief 2186 01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:24,000 right 2187 01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:28,719 so once but i thought once we were aware 2188 01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:31,760 that the matrix is real and and folks i 2189 01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:33,520 got to tell you something man i as far 2190 01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:37,040 as i'm concerned it is it is a matrix um 2191 01:23:42,709 --> 01:23:39,679 the day uh i saw that movie the very 2192 01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:42,719 first one um i went home i think i told 2193 01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:44,159 you this story didn't i robert what 2194 01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:45,679 happened to me 2195 01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:48,400 it was extraordinary i can't remember 2196 01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:50,000 oh i gotta tell everybody because i 2197 01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,520 don't know if i've ever talked see i 2198 01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:53,120 forget what i tell on the air and i 2199 01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:54,560 forget what i tell my friends and i 2200 01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,840 forget everything so i'll just get it 2201 01:23:59,430 --> 01:23:57,360 out tonight 2202 01:24:01,669 --> 01:23:59,440 i saw the movie i came home i pulled 2203 01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:01,679 into my driveway parking lot space in 2204 01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:04,159 front of my little cottage at the time 2205 01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:06,080 and suddenly as i'm reaching for the 2206 01:24:09,350 --> 01:24:08,320 door handle to open it to go into the 2207 01:24:12,629 --> 01:24:09,360 house 2208 01:24:15,430 --> 01:24:12,639 the whole thing pixelated my vision went 2209 01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:15,440 completely pixelated so that all i was 2210 01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:18,719 seeing was little squares everywhere 2211 01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:20,880 just like you do when you're working in 2212 01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:22,159 photoshop 2213 01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:24,560 yeah yeah i understand and it was just 2214 01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:25,840 like the matrix because there were 2215 01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:28,080 several scenes where it pixelated on 2216 01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:29,199 everybody 2217 01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:32,480 yeah and i was like oh my god and i 2218 01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:34,480 literally it would not stop i kept 2219 01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:36,719 blinking my eyes i kept doing all this 2220 01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:38,560 stuff and it was just it wouldn't go 2221 01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:39,520 away 2222 01:24:43,990 --> 01:24:41,920 and i was so disoriented i was getting a 2223 01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:44,000 little nauseous too because it was like 2224 01:24:47,990 --> 01:24:46,080 looking at you know through some kind of 2225 01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:48,000 weird prism thing at all this these 2226 01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:49,280 little squares 2227 01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:51,040 and i couldn't really see and it was 2228 01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:53,760 dark and so you know i crawled i 2229 01:24:56,629 --> 01:24:54,719 literally 2230 01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:56,639 got out of the car got on the ground on 2231 01:25:00,870 --> 01:24:59,120 my hands and knees and crawled up the 2232 01:25:02,790 --> 01:25:00,880 boardwalk i was living on a boardwalk i 2233 01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:02,800 had to walk out this boardwalk to my 2234 01:25:07,590 --> 01:25:05,920 cottage out in the marsh and i crawled 2235 01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:07,600 all the way down the boardwalk until i 2236 01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,440 got near the house and i could make out 2237 01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:11,600 the shape of the the porch and the light 2238 01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:13,840 on the porch and crawled up opened the 2239 01:25:17,189 --> 01:25:15,360 handle walked in the house and the 2240 01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:17,199 minute i got in the house it it 2241 01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:19,040 completely went away 2242 01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:22,239 and i was so flipped out for two days it 2243 01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:26,080 was insane and it came back briefly that 2244 01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:28,560 night i had to use the restroom about 2245 01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:30,719 four o'clock in the morning went into 2246 01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:32,960 the bathroom and it was it totally 2247 01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:35,760 pixelated while i was in the bathroom 2248 01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:38,159 and then i blinked a few times i thought 2249 01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,320 to myself oh my god if this goes on if 2250 01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:42,719 this is permanent i'm screwed i can't 2251 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:45,199 walk around like this i can't read i 2252 01:25:50,070 --> 01:25:48,560 can't see whatever and it went away 2253 01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:50,080 right after that right after i had the 2254 01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,600 thought of oh my god how am i going to 2255 01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:53,360 live like this right 2256 01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:55,840 so and i was petrified for days 2257 01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:57,440 afterwards that it was going to keep 2258 01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:00,480 happening and it it never happened again 2259 01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:03,199 but it scared to be jesus out of me but 2260 01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:06,159 later i realized it was just making a 2261 01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:09,280 very solid point to my subconscious 2262 01:26:14,070 --> 01:26:11,199 and my conscience 2263 01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,080 conscious uh reality that this is 2264 01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:16,239 totally real the matrix movie was the 2265 01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:19,360 key and there you go you know 2266 01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:20,719 i thought it was very poignant what our 2267 01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:23,120 subconscious can do in a situation like 2268 01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:23,920 that 2269 01:26:30,950 --> 01:26:28,480 i thought it was really crazy but hey 2270 01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:30,960 that movie the day i saw that i knew the 2271 01:26:35,830 --> 01:26:33,600 red pill thing i i was like oh my god 2272 01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:35,840 this is it this is the answer to life 2273 01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:37,840 you know if you do nothing else your 2274 01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:39,120 whole life you've got to watch that 2275 01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:40,880 movie 2276 01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:43,600 so getting back to what i said uh it 2277 01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:44,800 isn't 2278 01:26:49,030 --> 01:26:46,880 real it's virtual reality it's a 2279 01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:49,040 simulation 2280 01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:51,199 the experiences that we have here are 2281 01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:53,760 virtual but we are still learning from 2282 01:26:58,229 --> 01:26:56,000 them that's why it exists 2283 01:27:00,629 --> 01:26:58,239 it was set up originally by lucifer or 2284 01:27:01,430 --> 01:27:00,639 anki whatever you want to call him as a 2285 01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:01,440 way 2286 01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:04,080 he's a means for him to be lord god 2287 01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:06,320 savior or creator whatever 2288 01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:08,000 of his own domain 2289 01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,920 and we agreed to come here this is not 2290 01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:11,440 punishment we agreed to come here 2291 01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:12,719 because it was interesting it was 2292 01:27:16,870 --> 01:27:15,280 different and it was allowed to happen 2293 01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:16,880 because 2294 01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:19,199 much like a flight simulator 2295 01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:20,960 uh we you know you have to do that 2296 01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:22,239 before you can learn how to fly an 2297 01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:23,840 aircraft because it's safer to do it 2298 01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:25,440 that way obviously if you crash you're 2299 01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:27,679 not going to kill anybody and so if you 2300 01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:29,920 think about it this is really what the 2301 01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:33,280 matrix is for it's a it's a curriculum 2302 01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:37,830 it's we're learning through experiences 2303 01:27:42,629 --> 01:27:40,639 and it is very challenging but there's 2304 01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:42,639 as i said there's all also 2305 01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:45,360 a danger if a person is in it too long 2306 01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:47,440 and they start to believe that it is 2307 01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:50,000 real they don't they forget the context 2308 01:27:53,830 --> 01:27:51,520 that they're not fully here that their 2309 01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:53,840 soul is outside the matrix and they're 2310 01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,800 just controlling a body remotely 2311 01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:58,480 in the matrix 2312 01:28:01,990 --> 01:28:00,320 they can become very disoriented and 2313 01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:02,000 actually believe that the matrix is real 2314 01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:03,440 when it's not 2315 01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:05,280 yeah yeah 2316 01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:07,120 well this leads me back to the whole 2317 01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:09,440 thing that i always get to with you is 2318 01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:12,480 this inky character how does he play in 2319 01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:15,120 with this i mean he he has no 2320 01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:18,320 control over us on the other dimensional 2321 01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:20,960 side where we're a soul being 2322 01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:23,199 and controlling this body here does oh 2323 01:28:28,149 --> 01:28:25,840 that's not true lauren oh no unfortunate 2324 01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:28,159 yes and it's not true because it and 2325 01:28:32,790 --> 01:28:30,320 it's not even it's not even control it's 2326 01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:32,800 it's very clever it's it's a 2327 01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:35,199 sophistry they they are again they're 2328 01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:37,360 trying to confuse us so when we 2329 01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:39,679 leave the physical body 2330 01:28:43,669 --> 01:28:41,520 that we're not fully in anyway the 2331 01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:43,679 connection is broken the silver cord is 2332 01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:45,280 snapped 2333 01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:48,000 and the body is the avatar is deleted 2334 01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:49,520 from the system 2335 01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,239 our soul is free to go however what they 2336 01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:54,800 do is they will trick us 2337 01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:57,440 into agreeing to come back 2338 01:29:01,990 --> 01:28:59,600 again if we're under the illusion if we 2339 01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:02,000 really believe that that this is the 2340 01:29:05,669 --> 01:29:03,280 reality 2341 01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:05,679 um it's very simple for them to you know 2342 01:29:10,629 --> 01:29:08,000 put the light in our eyes so to speak 2343 01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:10,639 you know and yeah appear to us as 2344 01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:13,360 whatever some sort of angelic 2345 01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:14,560 um 2346 01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:17,679 god-like beings or even it could be just 2347 01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:18,880 you know 2348 01:29:23,189 --> 01:29:21,600 loved ones they can morph into 2349 01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:23,199 like you know my grandmother and say to 2350 01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:24,639 me robert you know you're you have 2351 01:29:28,709 --> 01:29:26,000 unfinished business and there's this 2352 01:29:30,709 --> 01:29:28,719 wonderful family that you know is is 2353 01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:30,719 looking for they would they have room in 2354 01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,159 their family and they would be good to 2355 01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:34,320 you and help you and all this stuff and 2356 01:29:37,189 --> 01:29:35,760 it sounds great 2357 01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:37,199 you know but when 2358 01:29:41,910 --> 01:29:38,639 it's a trick 2359 01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:41,920 us to stay here as long as possible 2360 01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:44,400 because it's job security for them and 2361 01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:46,719 it's sort of an ego trip i guess too 2362 01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:47,920 uh 2363 01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:49,679 well it's it's kind of silly but anyway 2364 01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:51,440 that so those are the dynamics that are 2365 01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:52,960 going on 2366 01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:54,159 when we 2367 01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:56,480 so-called physically pass over 2368 01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:58,960 which is all an illusion but it's it 2369 01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,719 serves a purpose and it is very 2370 01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:02,639 challenging and i just want people to be 2371 01:30:05,669 --> 01:30:04,159 aware of that 2372 01:30:08,709 --> 01:30:05,679 i do have a very interesting article 2373 01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:08,719 about that called um 2374 01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:11,600 hold on let me see what it says here 2375 01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:13,760 yeah let me get back to the the death 2376 01:30:17,830 --> 01:30:16,000 trap the west henry wrote this it's 2377 01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:17,840 called the death trap and how to avoid 2378 01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:19,199 it 2379 01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:21,600 although my understanding you know wes 2380 01:30:26,709 --> 01:30:24,560 is his we're both evolving 2381 01:30:28,709 --> 01:30:26,719 on our understanding our levels of 2382 01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:28,719 understanding have increased after 2383 01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:32,000 reading the divine secret garden um 2384 01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:33,840 i i sent that to a lot of people when i 2385 01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:35,760 first started reading it and a lot of 2386 01:30:39,510 --> 01:30:37,440 people are actually benefiting including 2387 01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:39,520 wes penray um 2388 01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:41,920 and myself so 2389 01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:43,280 it's it's not 2390 01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:45,199 really just as simple as looking at for 2391 01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:47,360 a way to get through the grid the energy 2392 01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,520 grid around the planet there's some 2393 01:30:52,950 --> 01:30:51,360 other levels of preparation and i 2394 01:30:54,709 --> 01:30:52,960 outline that in 2395 01:30:55,990 --> 01:30:54,719 my newest page article whatever you want 2396 01:30:58,149 --> 01:30:56,000 to call it um 2397 01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:58,159 called the matrix exit 2398 01:31:02,870 --> 01:31:00,800 okay it's very very easy to find on the 2399 01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:02,880 front page of my website or in the arts 2400 01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:05,760 section yep yeah wonderful 2401 01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:06,800 thank you so 2402 01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:08,960 this is all just when did you discover 2403 01:31:12,950 --> 01:31:10,880 this book about the garden 2404 01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:12,960 i mean did i come to you 2405 01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:14,159 yes 2406 01:31:19,750 --> 01:31:17,600 his books and 2407 01:31:21,270 --> 01:31:19,760 no explanation 2408 01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:21,280 and i and i thought well that's 2409 01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:23,840 intriguing i i'm wondering divine secret 2410 01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:25,760 garden that sounds 2411 01:31:29,189 --> 01:31:28,320 pleasant i wonder what the secret is you 2412 01:31:31,510 --> 01:31:29,199 know 2413 01:31:33,590 --> 01:31:31,520 right so i clicked on the link 2414 01:31:35,270 --> 01:31:33,600 and and i looked at what he was his 2415 01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:35,280 books that he'd written and he was he 2416 01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:37,679 was giving away just like wes penry 2417 01:31:42,709 --> 01:31:40,639 these you know obviously a lot of time 2418 01:31:45,590 --> 01:31:42,719 and effort and research and social don't 2419 01:31:47,910 --> 01:31:45,600 miss old navy's saturday steal today 2420 01:31:50,310 --> 01:31:47,920 only get incredible deals on all of your 2421 01:31:53,110 --> 01:31:50,320 favorite old navy styles all dresses are 2422 01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:53,120 50 off plus super soft leggings are just 2423 01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:55,199 six dollars for women and five dollars 2424 01:31:59,350 --> 01:31:57,600 for girls and toddler girls and comfy 2425 01:32:01,990 --> 01:31:59,360 tunic tees are just ten dollars for 2426 01:32:04,390 --> 01:32:02,000 women girls and toddler girls hurry in 2427 01:32:07,750 --> 01:32:04,400 for our saturday steal today only at old 2428 01:32:09,669 --> 01:32:07,760 navy and old navy.com valid916 excludes 2429 01:32:12,149 --> 01:32:09,679 in-store clearance dresses leggings and 2430 01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:12,159 tunic tees select styles only she went 2431 01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:14,320 into these writing these books 2432 01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:15,040 yeah 2433 01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:17,520 and he was giving them away a nice and 2434 01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:19,199 so 2435 01:32:23,030 --> 01:32:20,080 um 2436 01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:23,040 the first book it's called forbidden 2437 01:32:27,350 --> 01:32:24,840 i think it's called forbidden 2438 01:32:29,430 --> 01:32:27,360 knowledge it it 2439 01:32:31,590 --> 01:32:29,440 it has a lot of quotes from the bible in 2440 01:32:33,750 --> 01:32:31,600 it which at first glance i was like oh 2441 01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,760 no no i don't want to go through this 2442 01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:35,760 but as i've read it 2443 01:32:38,950 --> 01:32:37,440 i realized the only reason he was 2444 01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:38,960 quoting from the bible was to 2445 01:32:44,149 --> 01:32:40,960 deconstruct it and actually show you 2446 01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:44,159 where the lies were mixed with the truth 2447 01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:45,920 and that was very interesting to me so 2448 01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:47,760 it's not religious 2449 01:32:53,030 --> 01:32:50,560 um in fact it's it's the opposite it's 2450 01:32:58,390 --> 01:32:53,040 gnostic 2451 01:32:59,350 --> 01:32:58,400 gnosis spell with the g it means uh it 2452 01:33:01,430 --> 01:32:59,360 means 2453 01:33:03,910 --> 01:33:01,440 knowing through experience 2454 01:33:05,590 --> 01:33:03,920 so really what these teachings are is a 2455 01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:05,600 lesson plan for 2456 01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:07,920 a soul to 2457 01:33:11,430 --> 01:33:09,840 continue their growth 2458 01:33:14,470 --> 01:33:11,440 through experience 2459 01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:14,480 here and more importantly to prepare 2460 01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:15,280 to 2461 01:33:20,310 --> 01:33:18,159 leave the matrix and return home 2462 01:33:21,750 --> 01:33:20,320 and reunite with their sole 2463 01:33:24,550 --> 01:33:21,760 family 2464 01:33:26,550 --> 01:33:24,560 and it's very beautiful i mean he 2465 01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:26,560 i see why he contacted me because i use 2466 01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:29,920 a lot of similar terms or analogies for 2467 01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:32,560 the soul being a seed of light in a 2468 01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:35,120 garden that came from a tree etc you 2469 01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:37,760 know it's a very organic process 2470 01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:38,560 sure 2471 01:33:46,310 --> 01:33:44,629 trying to 2472 01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:46,320 illustrate and i think he did a pretty 2473 01:33:50,229 --> 01:33:48,719 good job that um 2474 01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:50,239 like what i've told you i didn't want to 2475 01:33:53,830 --> 01:33:52,080 believe this for the longest time but i 2476 01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:53,840 felt it was true in fact i think i would 2477 01:33:59,590 --> 01:33:56,960 have discovered this back in 1990 2478 01:34:01,189 --> 01:33:59,600 if i hadn't been uh psychically attacked 2479 01:34:02,790 --> 01:34:01,199 and i'm pretty sure that's why they came 2480 01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:02,800 after me i was at the told i think i 2481 01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:05,840 mentioned this when i in uh early 1990 i 2482 01:34:09,910 --> 01:34:07,840 was attacked by some sort of artificial 2483 01:34:12,550 --> 01:34:09,920 intelligence over the phone because they 2484 01:34:14,790 --> 01:34:12,560 were reading my mind and um i mean they 2485 01:34:17,270 --> 01:34:14,800 being a group network 2486 01:34:19,669 --> 01:34:17,280 ai is not new it's been here that's 2487 01:34:23,590 --> 01:34:19,679 right right see but yeah so i was 2488 01:34:26,470 --> 01:34:23,600 looking into abductions and androids 2489 01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:26,480 literally androids among us and that 2490 01:34:32,950 --> 01:34:30,159 that was a shocker at the time and um 2491 01:34:34,229 --> 01:34:32,960 but i think can i just i just need to 2492 01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:34,239 ask you one question are you talking 2493 01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:37,040 more along the terminator type of ai 2494 01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:38,159 creation 2495 01:34:43,990 --> 01:34:40,560 yeah okay okay i want to get my beam on 2496 01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:44,000 this not an alien type of created 2497 01:34:47,910 --> 01:34:45,199 no they're 2498 01:34:50,870 --> 01:34:47,920 they're called uh robotoids or 2499 01:34:53,430 --> 01:34:50,880 synthetics or so they're kind of like uh 2500 01:34:55,030 --> 01:34:53,440 they're a hybrid between a machine and a 2501 01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:55,040 clone 2502 01:34:59,830 --> 01:34:56,719 so they're copies they're copies but 2503 01:35:01,750 --> 01:34:59,840 they're modified copies and they can be 2504 01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:01,760 they're down there's a bit of a download 2505 01:35:05,110 --> 01:35:03,520 that goes on but it's it's more than 2506 01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:05,120 that there's the 2507 01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:06,960 once it's been downloaded then you can 2508 01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:08,960 augment it by um 2509 01:35:13,350 --> 01:35:11,199 uh programming 2510 01:35:16,229 --> 01:35:13,360 adding programming so anyway 2511 01:35:17,590 --> 01:35:16,239 anyway um yeah these explanations it 2512 01:35:19,990 --> 01:35:17,600 says you know 2513 01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:20,000 like anybody 2514 01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:21,840 if i had gotten too much information too 2515 01:35:25,110 --> 01:35:24,159 soon it wouldn't make any sense to me so 2516 01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:25,120 right 2517 01:35:28,870 --> 01:35:26,960 everybody progresses at their own rate 2518 01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:28,880 just like if you were in school you know 2519 01:35:32,390 --> 01:35:30,800 sometimes you can't get through a grade 2520 01:35:34,390 --> 01:35:32,400 so you're held back sometimes you 2521 01:35:35,990 --> 01:35:34,400 accelerate your your learning and you 2522 01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:36,000 actually skip grades 2523 01:35:39,110 --> 01:35:37,840 we see that all the time right so why 2524 01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:39,120 wouldn't it be why would it be any 2525 01:35:43,110 --> 01:35:41,679 different for a soul's progress or path 2526 01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:43,120 in the matrix 2527 01:35:46,310 --> 01:35:45,040 as i said it's a curriculum okay there's 2528 01:35:48,229 --> 01:35:46,320 a series of 2529 01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:48,239 it's just okay so in a video game if 2530 01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:50,880 once you've completed level one 2531 01:35:55,189 --> 01:35:52,639 why would you keep playing level one if 2532 01:35:57,750 --> 01:35:55,199 you can go to level two and so it's the 2533 01:36:00,229 --> 01:35:57,760 same game but it's there's 2534 01:36:02,390 --> 01:36:00,239 the challenges are greater 2535 01:36:03,830 --> 01:36:02,400 yeah and so the longer you stick with it 2536 01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:03,840 you know the challenges get greater or 2537 01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:04,880 greater and 2538 01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:06,000 um 2539 01:36:09,510 --> 01:36:06,960 uh 2540 01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:09,520 i believe that i came here to help wake 2541 01:36:15,110 --> 01:36:12,320 up souls that um 2542 01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:15,120 had really forgotten who they were and 2543 01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:16,719 basically stuck here 2544 01:36:21,430 --> 01:36:19,280 on some level they they were so deeply 2545 01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:21,440 into believing the matrix was all there 2546 01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:25,199 is and it's like the the reality 2547 01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:26,320 um 2548 01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:28,880 okay and so i'm and i'm not the only one 2549 01:36:32,870 --> 01:36:30,960 i believe there's been many souls that 2550 01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:32,880 came here thinking that oh it'll be 2551 01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:34,960 simple i'll just wake them up well 2552 01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:37,199 it isn't that simple and in the longer 2553 01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:38,880 you're here trying to do that 2554 01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:41,920 it's very it's very seductive you can 2555 01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:43,679 forget 2556 01:36:47,109 --> 01:36:45,679 yeah i mean i have days robert where i 2557 01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:47,119 wish i'd never 2558 01:36:52,229 --> 01:36:49,760 never woken up honest to god i swear to 2559 01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:52,239 god i wish i'd never had that weekend in 2560 01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:53,840 september which i never went to the 2561 01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:55,360 conference 2562 01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:57,520 oh yeah i see what you mean yeah yeah 2563 01:37:00,310 --> 01:36:59,199 remain blissfully 2564 01:37:01,109 --> 01:37:00,320 ignorant 2565 01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:01,119 yeah 2566 01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:04,840 that's not your 2567 01:37:09,109 --> 01:37:07,360 nature as a soul 2568 01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:09,119 at some point you have to wake up look 2569 01:37:13,990 --> 01:37:11,920 okay so back to the analogy you can't 2570 01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:14,000 school is not real 2571 01:37:20,229 --> 01:37:18,000 okay it is it's teaching you things 2572 01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:20,239 but it's not reality you have to go 2573 01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:22,400 outside of school at some point to live 2574 01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:24,960 in the real world that's true yeah okay 2575 01:37:30,149 --> 01:37:26,400 so the same thing is true for this 2576 01:37:32,709 --> 01:37:30,159 matrix we are learning from experiences 2577 01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:32,719 it's increasing our skill sets 2578 01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,199 but at some point we have to leave and 2579 01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,440 apply those skills and live in the real 2580 01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:39,440 world and this is not a real world it's 2581 01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:41,760 a simulation it's virtually real but it 2582 01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:43,840 isn't 2583 01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:46,239 it's nested within creation the true 2584 01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:48,880 reality okay but it's not reality now 2585 01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:50,560 here's the really big problem the reason 2586 01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:53,119 we're even talking about this is that 2587 01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:56,400 the luciferians know that 2588 01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:58,320 quite a few souls are waking up and even 2589 01:38:01,750 --> 01:37:59,840 more going to wake up here in the next 2590 01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:01,760 few years and they will leave the matrix 2591 01:38:05,189 --> 01:38:03,280 and not return 2592 01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:05,199 yeah so what they're doing 2593 01:38:09,510 --> 01:38:07,119 is not only are they adding more 2594 01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:09,520 programs into it that are distracting 2595 01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:12,400 and confusing us trying to control us 2596 01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:14,400 but they're also offering up the same 2597 01:38:18,550 --> 01:38:16,800 what is called a singularity 2598 01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:18,560 so that people think that they can 2599 01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:20,800 download themselves into 2600 01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:23,600 into a machine 2601 01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:25,360 right an artificial intelligence or a 2602 01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:28,159 cyborg type of situation so in essence 2603 01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,760 they're going to offer 2604 01:38:32,790 --> 01:38:31,280 their cr they've already created it but 2605 01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:32,800 at some point in the near future they're 2606 01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:34,000 going to 2607 01:38:37,990 --> 01:38:35,600 say that you can 2608 01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,000 in essence it's a singularity 2609 01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:40,239 excuse me it's a simulation within the 2610 01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:43,280 simulation you can see examples of that 2611 01:38:48,550 --> 01:38:46,480 on my new page called the matrix exit so 2612 01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:48,560 this is really a desperate attempt and 2613 01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:50,480 it's going to work some people some 2614 01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:52,480 souls will actually go deeper into 2615 01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:53,920 another level it's sort of like the 2616 01:38:56,950 --> 01:38:55,600 russian dolls you know it's one nest 2617 01:38:59,430 --> 01:38:56,960 that is 2618 01:39:01,189 --> 01:38:59,440 so this is really they are in that's 2619 01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:01,199 their intention i think they will have 2620 01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:03,280 some success at that and i've been 2621 01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:04,960 trying to warn people that that's not a 2622 01:39:10,390 --> 01:39:08,080 good idea but again it's a choice 2623 01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:10,400 free will has to be respected and if if 2624 01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:12,560 a soul chooses to go deeper 2625 01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:14,159 into the matrix and 2626 01:39:17,830 --> 01:39:16,000 believing that that is their only option 2627 01:39:20,629 --> 01:39:17,840 or the best option 2628 01:39:22,550 --> 01:39:20,639 then we have to respect that um 2629 01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:22,560 but i don't agree with it i think it's a 2630 01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:24,880 terrible idea 2631 01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:27,840 okay well i'm still trying to wrap my 2632 01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:30,480 head around the fact that i i know that 2633 01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:32,800 my soul is somewhere else controlling 2634 01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:34,800 the situation i'm in here 2635 01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:37,520 right and uh what's interesting robert 2636 01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:40,080 do you ever find yourself saying that 2637 01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:43,280 feeling like your soul is more like god 2638 01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:45,679 i mean or that you're talking to your 2639 01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:48,960 soul as a separate entity i mean 2640 01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:50,719 i'm starting to wonder if i'm not like 2641 01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:53,520 getting sight you know crazy 2642 01:39:56,950 --> 01:39:55,280 having all these different personalities 2643 01:39:59,109 --> 01:39:56,960 running around i mean i'm like 2644 01:40:02,709 --> 01:39:59,119 wait a minute but just because my soul 2645 01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:02,719 is out there controlling me here now 2646 01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:05,440 um and here's another kicker i threw 2647 01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:07,600 into the mix on this one the other day 2648 01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:09,760 i'm thinking i wonder how many 2649 01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,239 different dimensions my soul is actually 2650 01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,880 controlling different versions of myself 2651 01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:17,119 good point good point it's great because 2652 01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:19,360 it is it is existing on multiple 2653 01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:21,600 dimensions at the same time 2654 01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:23,360 so here's what's interesting about the 2655 01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:25,119 work of john panella in the divine 2656 01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:27,440 secret garden he says that the parent 2657 01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:28,880 god creator 2658 01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:31,840 that has both mother father aspects to 2659 01:40:39,430 --> 01:40:33,040 it 2660 01:40:40,390 --> 01:40:39,440 separates much like a seed coming off a 2661 01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:40,400 tree 2662 01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:43,199 that spirit that spirit then resides in 2663 01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:45,280 a place it's not a tree yet but it's you 2664 01:40:49,830 --> 01:40:47,840 know it's come from the parent tree so 2665 01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:49,840 it has all the attributes of the tree 2666 01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:52,400 call it god so the spirit is not god but 2667 01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:53,920 it is a 2668 01:40:58,870 --> 01:40:55,920 um 2669 01:41:01,590 --> 01:40:58,880 it's a it's a fragment of god 2670 01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:01,600 okay all right so it is now existing in 2671 01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:03,360 another dimension 2672 01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:05,840 and it has the potential to become a 2673 01:41:09,590 --> 01:41:06,880 god 2674 01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:09,600 as well naturally as it matures and part 2675 01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:11,360 of its maturity is 2676 01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:13,360 its growth is it needs to have 2677 01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:15,119 experiences 2678 01:41:20,390 --> 01:41:18,000 to do that so what it does is the spirit 2679 01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,400 then fragments itself it sends out like 2680 01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:22,239 little sparks of light 2681 01:41:27,030 --> 01:41:24,880 again like seeds so the seed at some 2682 01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:27,040 point literally sends out more seeds but 2683 01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:29,199 these are now smaller segments or 2684 01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,040 versions of itself 2685 01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:33,199 and that's what a soul is and it's 2686 01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:34,480 interesting because i never ever 2687 01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:37,360 considered that or but when i read it it 2688 01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:39,520 it felt very familiar and i could 2689 01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:41,360 actually see it in my mind and i could 2690 01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:43,440 feel it in a part of me that i don't 2691 01:41:49,189 --> 01:41:46,320 think is physical at all in other words 2692 01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:49,199 it was like a memory a soul memory and 2693 01:41:51,910 --> 01:41:50,880 it really made sense 2694 01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:51,920 um 2695 01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:53,119 to me 2696 01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,360 i could relate to this so this is what 2697 01:41:59,830 --> 01:41:57,360 i'm telling you i'm relating it to you 2698 01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:59,840 right that our soul is actually just and 2699 01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:00,800 it's 2700 01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:03,840 a spirit can send out many many many 2701 01:42:10,149 --> 01:42:07,280 soul or sparks like like little drones 2702 01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:10,159 out to have these experiences and so in 2703 01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:12,800 essence one spirit can 2704 01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:13,679 be 2705 01:42:19,750 --> 01:42:17,840 all from the same spirit 2706 01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:19,760 well exactly and i've got to be that's 2707 01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:20,960 what you're feeling 2708 01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:22,800 that's what you're tapping into and i 2709 01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:25,040 know it's a little disorienting at first 2710 01:42:28,390 --> 01:42:26,639 but you got to think of it as it's 2711 01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:28,400 actually a benefit it's an attribute 2712 01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:31,360 that you can uh i wouldn't call it this 2713 01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:33,840 terrible word you can exploit it 2714 01:42:38,709 --> 01:42:36,400 but not in a bad way it's in other words 2715 01:42:42,229 --> 01:42:38,719 it's a resource it's a beautiful 2716 01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:42,239 wonderful resource that that um because 2717 01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:43,840 here's the difference 2718 01:42:47,109 --> 01:42:45,440 all the souls 2719 01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:47,119 that are connected i've seen this i was 2720 01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:48,639 shown this before is that they're 2721 01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:50,800 they're all connected through a web 2722 01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:52,159 of light 2723 01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:53,840 that's right i was just going to say 2724 01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:54,639 that 2725 01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:55,840 i was 2726 01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:57,360 i know you're one of the few people that 2727 01:43:01,030 --> 01:42:59,119 have seen it right right right yeah but 2728 01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:01,040 see now the thing is 2729 01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:03,679 we all cooperate with one another 2730 01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:05,840 because we're all related and what would 2731 01:43:09,990 --> 01:43:07,360 be the point of competing against 2732 01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:10,000 yourself ourselves right 2733 01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:12,400 we're always cooperating and 2734 01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:15,199 collaborating with each other 2735 01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:15,920 so 2736 01:43:21,109 --> 01:43:18,000 whereas in the matrix 2737 01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:21,119 it's all about competition 2738 01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:22,639 that's true 2739 01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:24,320 that's it that's what it is you're 2740 01:43:27,350 --> 01:43:25,920 you've hit the nail on the head 2741 01:43:29,590 --> 01:43:27,360 competition 2742 01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:29,600 because that's really that's what leads 2743 01:43:33,750 --> 01:43:32,880 people away from love it leads them into 2744 01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:33,760 fear 2745 01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:35,840 it creates chaos 2746 01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:38,719 it causes um distrust 2747 01:43:42,070 --> 01:43:41,040 it doesn't allow you to connect with 2748 01:43:44,310 --> 01:43:42,080 others 2749 01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:44,320 you know and it all it is based in fear 2750 01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:47,920 as well though i mean don't you think so 2751 01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:48,960 absolutely 2752 01:43:54,950 --> 01:43:51,760 yes it is it but it's again this is what 2753 01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:54,960 part of the dynamic of good and evil 2754 01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:55,760 yeah 2755 01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:58,800 the those two things are 2756 01:44:03,510 --> 01:44:00,960 diametrically opposed 2757 01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,520 and yet they are 2758 01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:05,840 they're both active in the matrix you 2759 01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:07,920 know in fact it wouldn't be interesting 2760 01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:09,840 if it wasn't that way again if you were 2761 01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:11,440 at an amusement park and you get on a 2762 01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:13,679 roller coaster 2763 01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:15,520 you you know before you get on there 2764 01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:16,880 it's not it's probably not going to kill 2765 01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:24,070 what you feel when you're on there is 2766 01:44:28,229 --> 01:44:26,400 like oh shoot i'm 2767 01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:28,239 this is scary right i'm gonna i could 2768 01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:30,560 die up here running flying around like 2769 01:44:34,629 --> 01:44:32,960 this but afterwards you go wow i'm still 2770 01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:34,639 here that was interesting and now your 2771 01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:36,800 body's all ramped up and you're feeling 2772 01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:39,360 actually kind of good about it 2773 01:44:42,149 --> 01:44:40,639 so yeah 2774 01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:42,159 it's why we're here i told you we're 2775 01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:44,080 here to experience these things 2776 01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:46,719 virtually because it's safer to do so 2777 01:44:51,189 --> 01:44:48,480 and they don't want this type of 2778 01:44:55,030 --> 01:44:51,199 behavior or thought process 2779 01:44:57,270 --> 01:44:55,040 ever to exist in the higher dimensions 2780 01:45:00,390 --> 01:44:57,280 now in other words they don't want 2781 01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:00,400 creativity or just like neo says in the 2782 01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:02,960 whole thing they don't want choice 2783 01:45:07,830 --> 01:45:05,360 they don't want us to have those those 2784 01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:07,840 that that ability to be creative they 2785 01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:10,000 don't want us to be in 2786 01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:11,280 use love 2787 01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:14,320 as a as an impetus to get somewhere they 2788 01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:17,040 want us to use fear and hatred 2789 01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:18,800 right to compete with one another that 2790 01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:20,639 would be the evil side but the thing is 2791 01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:22,159 what's really interesting on the good 2792 01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:24,560 side one of the things that we can 2793 01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:26,239 practice one of the skills that we can 2794 01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:29,440 hone is to be servant to to be of 2795 01:45:33,750 --> 01:45:32,080 service to others of our own volition of 2796 01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:33,760 our own choice not because we're forced 2797 01:45:39,430 --> 01:45:36,400 to be a slave but no because we choose 2798 01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:39,440 to to help others to be of service to 2799 01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:41,920 others there's a huge difference those 2800 01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:43,840 are two completely different things and 2801 01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:45,600 actually the good deeds 2802 01:45:50,390 --> 01:45:47,440 that we do here are 2803 01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:50,400 are never lost those experiences 2804 01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:55,990 gestures those good deeds are 2805 01:46:00,149 --> 01:45:58,719 retained forever outside the matrix and 2806 01:46:01,430 --> 01:46:00,159 i guess 2807 01:46:03,750 --> 01:46:01,440 it's a terrible analogy but i'll just 2808 01:46:06,070 --> 01:46:03,760 call it a spiritual bank account 2809 01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:06,080 okay or if you're in school you have a 2810 01:46:09,990 --> 01:46:07,600 record right they keep a record of your 2811 01:46:12,229 --> 01:46:10,000 grades yeah okay so when you do good 2812 01:46:15,030 --> 01:46:12,239 it's yeah it's all in your record if you 2813 01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:15,040 do bad up to a point there's 2814 01:46:20,629 --> 01:46:18,480 a lot of that is um allowed for it's 2815 01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:20,639 understood that you're that you're going 2816 01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:22,880 to be tempted to do evil while you're 2817 01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:24,000 here because 2818 01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:26,560 again the body that is not yours the 2819 01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:28,080 body that you're controlling right now 2820 01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:30,320 that is part of the matrix and and even 2821 01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:33,040 though you're controlling it as you 2822 01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:34,800 started this conversation with you saw 2823 01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:36,719 you have seen other entities trying to 2824 01:46:40,550 --> 01:46:38,880 control the body of max spears and other 2825 01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:40,560 people right and they 2826 01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:43,920 do yeah they do so we our soul is not 2827 01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:46,880 fully in control of the body it can be 2828 01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:49,040 um there's a competitive thing going on 2829 01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:50,480 there all the time because well again 2830 01:46:54,229 --> 01:46:52,000 you think about it it's not our body to 2831 01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:54,239 begin with it's part of the matrix so 2832 01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:56,159 why wouldn't they have a back door to 2833 01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:58,639 control it 2834 01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:01,199 you see so it's it's a very interesting 2835 01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:04,000 dynamic it is and you know you're kind 2836 01:47:08,149 --> 01:47:06,159 of got me just really think every time i 2837 01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:08,159 talk to you robert i i for two days 2838 01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:10,800 afterwards i go into this hole like i go 2839 01:47:15,669 --> 01:47:12,800 i go nuts for about three days and then 2840 01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:15,679 i finally go okay that was a cool leap 2841 01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:17,520 because i make another leap in my 2842 01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:19,840 development i can always tell after i 2843 01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:21,280 talk to you i'm like oh my god i 2844 01:47:25,350 --> 01:47:23,440 progressed again gee is this what i 2845 01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:25,360 really wanted to know god 2846 01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:27,520 give you an analogy of what's happening 2847 01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:29,440 when we're it there's more than just 2848 01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:31,920 words being exchanged here 2849 01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:33,600 on a soul level 2850 01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:38,560 is like if you had a coal or an ember 2851 01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:40,800 and you blow on it 2852 01:47:45,430 --> 01:47:42,880 your soul is like that okay it has a 2853 01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:45,440 divine spark i am just rekindling that 2854 01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,840 spark i am blowing on it not 2855 01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:49,520 figuratively speaking 2856 01:47:55,109 --> 01:47:52,080 i am blowing a type of air on it and 2857 01:47:57,910 --> 01:47:55,119 brightening i'm making it glow brighter 2858 01:47:59,669 --> 01:47:57,920 that's it that's all it is yeah that's 2859 01:48:02,550 --> 01:47:59,679 part of the waking up 2860 01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:02,560 and you know what's cool i was told this 2861 01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:05,040 by the angelic beans that i get in 2862 01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:06,480 contact with 2863 01:48:10,390 --> 01:48:08,239 you know you know robert i never wanted 2864 01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:10,400 to do this i am not a radio talk show 2865 01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:12,639 host this is not my thing right i mean 2866 01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:14,800 this is like the last thing that uh you 2867 01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:18,239 know as you know very well yes yes so i 2868 01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:21,679 sit here and i go well you know what why 2869 01:48:25,669 --> 01:48:23,520 am i having to do this and what they 2870 01:48:27,510 --> 01:48:25,679 have said almost similar to what you're 2871 01:48:31,030 --> 01:48:27,520 saying they said people 2872 01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:31,040 can hear you that are ready to take this 2873 01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:33,440 on you know they're they're trying to 2874 01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:35,920 decide in their in their soul 2875 01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:38,960 and in their in within this whole matrix 2876 01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:40,960 if they're ready to open up and become 2877 01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:43,600 part of this reality okay 2878 01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,639 that my mission was to get to as many 2879 01:48:51,030 --> 01:48:49,199 people as i could through my radio show 2880 01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:51,040 that they understood 2881 01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:53,600 that this was real and that they could 2882 01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:56,320 actually hear that within not my voice 2883 01:49:03,109 --> 01:48:59,360 not what i'm saying but within the spark 2884 01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:03,119 of my soul to them on an emotional level 2885 01:49:05,910 --> 01:49:04,800 that's what they told me 2886 01:49:07,750 --> 01:49:05,920 right so 2887 01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:07,760 it's a soul recognition this happens to 2888 01:49:11,590 --> 01:49:10,159 me a lot people think that i look 2889 01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:11,600 familiar to them but what they don't 2890 01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:12,960 realize and it took me a while to figure 2891 01:49:16,870 --> 01:49:14,719 this out too it was like what is with my 2892 01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:16,880 face why do people think i look like 2893 01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:19,600 somebody else it's not that they 2894 01:49:24,870 --> 01:49:23,119 on a soul level they wreck the recognize 2895 01:49:26,550 --> 01:49:24,880 me they feel that 2896 01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:26,560 connection 2897 01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:28,239 but they and they're trying to put it 2898 01:49:32,709 --> 01:49:30,639 into words you know like oh you look 2899 01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:32,719 like so-and-so or i feel like i've known 2900 01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:34,480 you for a long time but it actually it's 2901 01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:37,520 it's on a much it's a higher level 2902 01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:39,360 yeah because as i told you we're all 2903 01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:41,280 family to begin with all right 2904 01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:42,800 those of us who are souls we all come 2905 01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:45,040 from the same place so that in that 2906 01:49:48,629 --> 01:49:46,880 regard we are family 2907 01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,639 do you think there's a lot of us that 2908 01:49:52,709 --> 01:49:51,199 are like in sub-pods of the soul i mean 2909 01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:52,719 like do you think you're in my soul 2910 01:49:55,750 --> 01:49:53,679 group 2911 01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:55,760 or do you think there are possible but 2912 01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:58,239 it's possible but that's really not 2913 01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,239 that's not important 2914 01:50:05,350 --> 01:50:02,159 lorient right because it's not because 2915 01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:05,360 all right all the spirits came from the 2916 01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:08,080 original place all the souls came from 2917 01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:10,480 the spirits and they're all connected to 2918 01:50:14,470 --> 01:50:12,320 the same family so you can fragment it 2919 01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:14,480 as many times as you want but at some 2920 01:50:17,830 --> 01:50:16,560 point all the souls return back to their 2921 01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:17,840 original 2922 01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:19,920 spirit all the spirits are connected 2923 01:50:23,109 --> 01:50:22,080 back to the original parent which was 2924 01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:23,119 which 2925 01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:24,800 um that tree 2926 01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:26,560 of life 2927 01:50:30,629 --> 01:50:28,320 and that is the oh and let me explain a 2928 01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:30,639 second that tree has borne many seeds 2929 01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:32,080 you know when a tree goes to seed it 2930 01:50:36,149 --> 01:50:33,679 isn't just one tree 2931 01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:36,159 it's thousands of seeds right and and 2932 01:50:39,990 --> 01:50:38,560 we're this is a this is kind of 2933 01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:40,000 just the best analogy i could come with 2934 01:50:45,109 --> 01:50:41,840 but we're really talking about infinite 2935 01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:45,119 number of spirits that are being born 2936 01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:48,159 from or from that original 2937 01:50:52,229 --> 01:50:49,520 god 2938 01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:52,239 creator tree yeah now the the tree is 2939 01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:53,760 important because in the bible it talks 2940 01:50:58,149 --> 01:50:55,679 about the tree of life 2941 01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:58,159 yes and the opposite of that is the tree 2942 01:51:03,750 --> 01:50:59,840 of good and evil 2943 01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:03,760 so the matrix is yes the matrix is 2944 01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:06,400 the family tree 2945 01:51:12,070 --> 01:51:09,520 of enki or lucifer 2946 01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:12,080 that's his tree so in a way you could 2947 01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:14,800 say we we were adopted by him those of 2948 01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:16,400 us that chose to come here have been 2949 01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:18,719 adopted by him and he wants us to 2950 01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:20,880 consider him to be like he did to me he 2951 01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:23,360 wants us to consider him 2952 01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:25,920 our father so i mean yes he created the 2953 01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:28,639 matrix yes he created our the physical 2954 01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:30,400 bodies the avatars 2955 01:51:34,629 --> 01:51:32,560 even though they're not real 2956 01:51:36,470 --> 01:51:34,639 they're they're simulated 2957 01:51:39,189 --> 01:51:36,480 he created all that 2958 01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:39,199 and that is his family tree and it is 2959 01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:40,800 the simulation of the matrix is good and 2960 01:51:46,790 --> 01:51:43,760 evil but even enki has a soul and he 2961 01:51:47,589 --> 01:51:46,800 came from the original family tree of 2962 01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:47,599 life 2963 01:51:52,709 --> 01:51:51,440 can't experience when we're in in the 2964 01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:52,719 matrix 2965 01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:54,639 right it's outside it exists outside the 2966 01:51:59,510 --> 01:51:57,280 matrix and yeah absolutely 2967 01:52:01,669 --> 01:51:59,520 talking you're talking about the torah 2968 01:52:04,550 --> 01:52:01,679 right now what you're basically saying 2969 01:52:06,709 --> 01:52:04,560 because that that's exactly where 2970 01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,719 it it describes this whole thing from 2971 01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:08,800 top to bottom and that the bottom is the 2972 01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:09,920 matrix 2973 01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:12,239 and that you have to ascend through the 2974 01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:15,119 different levels of the tree to get out 2975 01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:17,360 out of it basically 2976 01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:19,520 well yeah it's just remembering how you 2977 01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:21,679 got first of all i said you know 2978 01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:22,800 real 2979 01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:27,119 you have to stop believing the lie that 2980 01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:30,320 this is this is a reality when it i mean 2981 01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:32,080 it's virtually real but it's not our 2982 01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:35,040 home so there's a couple of things steps 2983 01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:36,960 that have to happen and i outline them 2984 01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:40,239 all in that that new page uh right okay 2985 01:52:44,790 --> 01:52:42,080 so yeah it's really right now this is 2986 01:52:46,629 --> 01:52:44,800 not this is not difficult lauren 2987 01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:46,639 the problem is it's been withheld from 2988 01:52:50,550 --> 01:52:48,960 us it is forbidden up to a point because 2989 01:52:53,430 --> 01:52:50,560 if you know think about it from the 2990 01:52:55,669 --> 01:52:53,440 point of view of the administrators here 2991 01:52:57,270 --> 01:52:55,679 okay so if you're in a classroom 2992 01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:57,280 if somebody walks up to you and gives 2993 01:53:00,870 --> 01:52:58,719 you all the answers to the next test 2994 01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:00,880 well that that is cheating and you 2995 01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:02,960 basically you're yeah okay because 2996 01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:04,560 because you're cheating yourself because 2997 01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:06,239 you're never going to really know if 2998 01:53:11,189 --> 01:53:08,320 you've learned the lessons or not 2999 01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:11,199 that's right okay so this is part of the 3000 01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:13,760 process here the answers are available 3001 01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:15,520 but you have to look for them 3002 01:53:19,669 --> 01:53:18,159 just as in a classroom they're in a book 3003 01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:19,679 or you can talk to a teacher or you can 3004 01:53:23,350 --> 01:53:21,199 talk to your classmates but eventually 3005 01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:23,360 you're going to find the answers and 3006 01:53:26,870 --> 01:53:25,440 then once you accept the answers and 3007 01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:26,880 make integrate them into your 3008 01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:29,280 consciousness then you will pass the 3009 01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:31,360 test and then at some point you can 3010 01:53:35,350 --> 01:53:33,520 apply that knowledge in the real world 3011 01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:35,360 so again that's really what's going on 3012 01:53:39,430 --> 01:53:37,679 here this isn't punishment i know it 3013 01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:39,440 feels like it at times it sure feels 3014 01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:42,639 like it to me i know it can be it's very 3015 01:53:47,350 --> 01:53:45,440 challenging it's very seductive but okay 3016 01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:47,360 we only have a minute left or less in 3017 01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:49,280 the show but i want to just say one 3018 01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:52,320 thing then why is there the e why do the 3019 01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:54,960 evil guys attack let's say me for 3020 01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:57,440 example why is that happening 3021 01:54:03,270 --> 01:54:00,400 well because you're helping others and 3022 01:54:04,870 --> 01:54:03,280 they're trying to inhibit you from doing 3023 01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:04,880 that 3024 01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:07,199 they can't entirely prohibit you from 3025 01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:09,520 doing it so all they can do is inhibit 3026 01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:10,960 this is why they don't want us going 3027 01:54:14,470 --> 01:54:12,880 astral traveling whenever we want 3028 01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:14,480 because it gives us access to all kinds 3029 01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:16,000 of information that they don't want us 3030 01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:16,960 to have 3031 01:54:20,070 --> 01:54:18,560 right because if you wake up too soon 3032 01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:20,080 and you start waking up others like oh 3033 01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:21,520 pretty soon everybody's like that's it 3034 01:54:26,070 --> 01:54:23,840 we're done we're gleaving and and 3035 01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:26,080 they're basically out of a job so 3036 01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:27,280 they're just doing what they're 3037 01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:29,520 basically just doing their job 3038 01:54:32,709 --> 01:54:30,800 well they're doing what they need to do 3039 01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:32,719 to survive it's right 3040 01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:34,800 we usually say it's human nature but now 3041 01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:36,639 i'm going to say it's soul nature to do 3042 01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:38,639 that right 3043 01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:40,080 correct 3044 01:54:44,229 --> 01:54:42,400 oh my god well this has been wonderful 3045 01:54:46,470 --> 01:54:44,239 thank you for stepping up to the plate 3046 01:54:48,950 --> 01:54:46,480 tonight i really appreciate it 3047 01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:48,960 and uh yeah so i'm really excited about 3048 01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:50,960 your new stuff on the website so this is 3049 01:54:54,550 --> 01:54:52,159 really cool 3050 01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:54,560 and uh i will be reading everything i 3051 01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,320 promise you and if i come up with any 3052 01:54:59,910 --> 01:54:58,320 questions i will definitely skype you 3053 01:55:02,550 --> 01:54:59,920 and ask you 3054 01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:02,560 okay sweetheart thank you so much 3055 01:55:05,830 --> 01:55:04,560 okay everybody we'll have a great week 3056 01:55:07,990 --> 01:55:05,840 and we'll see you next time on the 3057 01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:08,000 california mufon radio show good night 3058 01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:10,400 everybody don't miss old navy's saturday 3059 01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:13,440 steal today only get incredible deals on 3060 01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:15,760 all of your favorite old navy styles all 3061 01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:18,400 dresses are 50 off plus supersoft 3062 01:55:22,229 --> 01:55:20,320 leggings are just six dollars for women 3063 01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:22,239 and five dollars for girls and toddler 3064 01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:24,800 girls and comfy tunic tees are just ten 3065 01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:26,880 dollars for women girls and toddler 3066 01:55:32,109 --> 01:55:29,360 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